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RackhamsRazor
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I wish I had a good look at the symbol. I only recognized the general shape. I would like to see exactly what the symbol is and what it contains
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code:
    ___________
/...........\
///::::::: :\\\
/// \\\
||| SNAKE |||
||| |||
\\\::::::::::///
\\\________///

Something like that. It's more of an octogon. There is a snake in the middle. The periods and the slashes are to mean there are like... rows, like in a greek amplitheater.
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I got a decent screeshot of the symbol here.

I tried several times to get a better picture but the camera wouldn't stop moving to get a clearer shot. It's the same on the shirt and the shark...

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I think it was on all the food containers in the storage room Kate got locked in.
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It looks like a swan to me rather than a snake. Can't read the word on it though.

I agree that it wasn't the best episode... I also would have liked to have a little more revealed.

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The symbol is a derivation of a taoist symbol, PA-KUA. I wonder if the animal in the middle is a reference to the yin-yang?

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Crotalus
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If you guys really want to get your minds blown, then go to a fansite and read the variious theories on the message boards. Here's one of the better ones. the unofficial lost fan site
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looks like the Lock Ness monster to me.
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and Bigfoot!
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So it was a swan. I just wish Jack would have let the count down finish. And what was with Jin speaking English in the preview for next week? Craziness.
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You know, I actually do like this show, but even if I didn't I would be forced to keep watching in the hopes that someone, someday, would actually EXPLAIN what the %#$!#$! is going on.
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I'm just glad we got a scientific explanation for the polar bears. Hooray for no magic!

--ApostleRadio

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Lyrhawn
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Did anyone tape it this week?!! My vcr bit it, and it didnt tape!!
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I didn't tape it, but I assume it'll be up on Bittorrent tomorrow.
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Darn, it didn't tape on my dvr. Poop.
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Bittorent? Is that a place I can DL it at?
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Bittorrent is a program, a type of sharing application. I'm sure someone else could give you a more technical idea of what it is. Check www.isohunt.com tomorrow (or maybe even tonight) for a torrent (basically a download) of this week's episode of Lost.
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Hallelujah, they answered the polar bear question!
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I could totally see the countdown and the number entry being some sort of unethical experiment on the human psyche to see if a person would go forward with the compulsion on faith alone--just the fear of what *might* happen if they didn't do that easy task.
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Yeah, I thought of that when they were watching the orientation film. I would probably do it out of fear myself. I'm too trusting. [Big Grin]
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Jay
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Lyrhawn I'm pretty sure I've got it taped. I'll make sure tonight when I get home. If you want me to send it to you drop me an email.
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What does everyone think of Einstein's Unified Field Theory and or Philadelphia Story to eplain what's going on?
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Thanks Jay!
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quote:
Originally posted by Crotalus:
Hallelujah, they answered the polar bear question!

They did? I can't believe I missed that. Please explain.
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quote:
They did? I can't believe I missed that. Please explain.
During the filmstrip they watched, it said something to the effect of "We brought brilliant scientists from many different fields to perform experiments on the island, including psychology, parapsychology, zoology..."

And when they said "zoology" it showed two polar bears wrestling. Probably on the island.

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I don't know that they've answered it. They made reference to it in the film, but I don't think anyone would transport polar bears to a tropical island to see what would happen.

Jack is developing crazy backed-into-a-corner eyes. He's almost as good at that as Ben Browder.

Ni!

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They most emphatically did NOT answer the polar bear question.

They just barely answered the questions of who built the bunker and how/when Desmond got there. And practically nothing else.

I was actually kind of surprised at how much they did reveal in the orientation film. It was obviously old and worn, and I kept expecting it to burn up or snap or otherwise be destroyed, and all its information be lost forever.

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There seemed to be a chunk taken out of it. Anyone else notice the blip where a sentance was never finished?
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There was more than one blip. The film appeared to have been spliced/edited at several points.

I almost laughed out loud when I saw the shot of the mysterious individual who was the financial backer of the project; zooming in on him in complete shadow, being quite deliberate about hiding his identity. It seemed to be setting him up for some major revelations later.

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Huh. I noticed the sound quality breaking up, but only one place seemed to be a serious blip. A sentance something like, "Don't ever use the computer to...."
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That was one of the more obvious, but there were at least one or two others before that.
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Yeah, I noticed several jumps/splices where things had obviously been cut out of the film. Still gave us quite a bit of information, though.
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Must see:

Dharma Industries Home Page

and

Hanso Foundation


I love their extras that they put out. The Oceanic airlines site was a wonder to plunder. Will these prove just as fun? And distracting?

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Thanks for pointing out the sites!

Not much on either yet, but the Hanso "Active Projects" page should get the Official Lost message boards a buzzin'.

I also liked the fake script excerpt they had for last night's episode. "Zombie Walt" indeed. [Wink]

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How come nobody's pointed out that in the preview for next week, Jin speaks perfect American English? I checked it, because I couldn't believe it first time around. He says "from now on, everything is going to change" right at the end of the clips.

My bet is that the other group from flight 815 (as of course it is) is the Hobbesian group. The big man will be called "Tom". They will be all fighting for their lives in an unorganized Hobbesian manner in which life is nasty, brutish and short. It's all a big social experiment, this TV show!

From the tape it sounded like the Swan is only one of three buildings on the island. But if that's the case, why does the symbol on the Dharma page have a swan in it as if that's the symbol in general?

Now, the sickness thing is peculiar. Both Rousseau and now Desmond have mentioned sickness, with Rousseau implying first hand knowledge, so I hesitate to say that it is, as Jack initially said, just a psycological experiment, although I was seriously hoping they wouldn't push the button.

~

From the Hanso Foundation page:

quote:
[quote]further the evolution of the human race
Do I have to even discuss this? They are messing with our heads.

From the sections of "active projects" (which basically all are a "you are not authorized to know what's going to happen in this TV show"):

quote:
Thank you. Namaste. Good Luck.
Clearly the "Namaste" was put there for a reason. Namaste is a greeting that implies submission of the greeter to the person they are greeting, as far as I can tell. Link. Combined with the taoist-type symbol of the logo, it's quite interesting.

There is some speculation that that Dharma site is not legitimately associated with the series.

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Teshi, I did point it out. It's in my post made at 9:11PM last night. [Razz]
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Oh.

*shifty eyes*

Oh, and it seems that the big man who's captured them is actually a resident of the island. But I'm not letting it ruin my theory.

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http://www.thehansofoundation.org/videostream.swf
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Anyone figure out a way to enter the Dharma Initiative site yet?
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Hmmmm.

The Wikipedia entry for the Dharma Initiative notes the similarity between the DI logo and that of the alleged Montauk Project

Interesting. If it's not a coincidence, it may be a clue.

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quote:
How come nobody's pointed out that in the preview for next week, Jin speaks perfect American English?
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Teshi, I did point it out. It's in my post made at 9:11PM last night. [Razz]
:chuckle:

I figure, if Sun can pretend for several episodes that she doesn't understand a word of English, why can't Jin do the same? Just fake it for longer? And for no good reason that comes to my mind?

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He's probably "in" on the conspiracy [Wink] .
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I notice the Dharma Initiative site looks for a specific IP before it'll let you in...I would think if you set your IP to the same as the numbers, it would let you in, but it looks like it's looking for a XX.XX.XXX.XX IP which is 9 digits and the numbers together are 10 digits.
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Well, I suppose that if they are going to go down the road of the Montauk Project mythology, Desmond's saying "See you in another life" every time he takes leave of Jack (as he did again last night in the jungle) makes some kind of sense.

Also, I thought it was interesting, in light of speculation I've seen some places concerning a Bermuda Triangle-like area having something to do with what happened to the plane, that the film made reference to something about "magentic anomalies" (I can't remember the exact words) in the area of the island. That also makes sense in terms of the Montauk Project/Philadelphia Experiment mythology.

This gets more and more interesting.

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quote:

There is some speculation that that Dharma site is not legitimately associated with the series.

Until they replaced it with the "Orientation" film, the Dharma site was reachable by a hidden link on the Hanso Foundation Projects page...and since Hanso has the Disney/ABC "Terms of Services" link on it, I think it's more likely to be legitimate than not.
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I've stumbled on to something....refresh the login site...and while th ip checker is checking move your mouse to the outside lower left...you should turn the first blockgreen...then move you mouse on the outside edge of the octagon in a counter clockwise motion....So far I got up to three blocks to turn green...
EDIT...actually I have to no idea after the first one...I've got to four with out knowing how I did it...
Ok I've got the first four figured out...just looking for the last one...

[ October 07, 2005, 08:07 AM: Message edited by: Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged ]

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Gah! Darnit, maybe they didn't come right out and say, "THIS is how the polar bears got on the island...". But the bears they showed were kind of play wrestling each other and there was foliage around them, not ice. I still assert that this explains how the bears got there. Y'all are just too darned suspicious and paranoid. [Smile]
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Until they replaced it with the "Orientation" film, the Dharma site was reachable by a hidden link on the Hanso Foundation Projects page...and since Hanso has the Disney/ABC "Terms of Services" link on it, I think it's more likely to be legitimate than not.
The hidden link wouldn't work for me. *sniff*
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If you look at the training video now, it shows the polar bears with snow around them. I could swear the other night I also saw foliage. Does someone still have it on tape?

Desmond said someone named Kendall(?) found him when he wrecked and brought him to the underground lab. The doctor on the film is Dr. Kandall or Kendall. Could it be the same person?

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I thought the person was called Kalvin or Calvin. And I don't remember seeing foliage, however, the polar bears were definately significant.
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