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Telperion the Silver
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Mmmm... pine trees...
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My best friend and I were out for a walk yesterday and I smelled this weird smell, which led to the following conversation:

Me - "What the heck is that smell?"
Her - "What smell?"
Me - "That smell, it smells like, like pine, do you smell it?"
Her - "Yeah."
Me - "Well what is it?"
Her - *points to pine tree over our heads* "Pine."

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Was D'Anna always that cynical? I don't think I like it.
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Lyrhawn
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After New Caprica? Yeah. Heck, after New Caprica, I don't there's anyone in either fleet that isn't cynical.
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quote:
Originally posted by Telperion the Silver:

Cavil One and Boomer are dead forever.

Maybe.

We don't know where she ran off to after Cavil was killed. There's no reason that Boomer couldn't have made it out of there.

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Lyrhawn
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Seeing Cavil killed and knowing what was about to happen, I'm betting she rushed off to meet the newly resurrected Cavil, to get him on a Heavy Raider and off the Hub before it blew, and she had plenty of time to do it.
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I live in Ireland but Im holidaying in Orlando from Thursday night. Can someone tell me what time BSG is normally on at in Americaland?

Also do hotels normally have Scifi in their rooms?

Thanks!

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quote:
Originally posted by Damien.m:
I live in Ireland but Im holidaying in Orlando from Thursday night. Can someone tell me what time BSG is normally on at in Americaland?

Also do hotels normally have Scifi in their rooms?

Thanks!

10pm in Orlando. I'm pretty sure that most hotels will carry it, but I'm not certain.
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I haven't been in that many hotels that actually get SciFi; I'm always rather surprised when they do.
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The answer is probably obvious and I just can't think of it, but how did the baseship make its way back to where Adama was waiting? I thought the hybrid was deciding when to jump and chasing the central hub. After the resurrection hub was destroyed, what reason did the hybrid have to return to where it came from? Or were Laura and the others able to control where they jumped?

Maybe the hybrid was only controlling things while it was panicking.

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The whole hybrid being in control thing seems to conflict with an earlier jump when the hybrid protested and Deanna said "she doesn't get a vote," and they jumped anyway.

They used the ship to fight off the other baseships, which I'm guessing the hybrid didn't stop, even though it resulted in the destruction of the Hub, so I think unless special circumstances are involved, she is powerless. Thus, I think they jumped back to where Galactica was without her having a say in the matter.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
The whole hybrid being in control thing seems to conflict with an earlier jump when the hybrid protested and Deanna said "she doesn't get a vote," and they jumped anyway.

They used the ship to fight off the other baseships, which I'm guessing the hybrid didn't stop, even though it resulted in the destruction of the Hub, so I think unless special circumstances are involved, she is powerless. Thus, I think they jumped back to where Galactica was without her having a say in the matter.

I would guess that something triggered some sort of emergency protocol that the Hybrid was following. Like an emergency lock out.
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My best guess is that the sudden deactivation/reactivation of the hybrid flipped it. I mean, the first time it happened, a centurion shot a Sharon.

I loved the scene with Gaius and the Centurion. Any chance that the centurions have some way of communicating mind-mind, and that the seeds of rebellion are now further sown?

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Telperion the Silver
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Yup.
And now the Humanoid Models no longer have an upper hand against the Centurions with self awarness without the ability to resurrect themselves.

But why can't a new Hub be constructed? You'd think since the Cylons are machines they would know about redundancies, as in more than one Hub (or at least more than only two freaking Baseships guarding the most strategic target possible).

I think the only way this event can be resolved for me is to have the Cylons talk about rebuilding the Hub but are stopped by the Civil War/Centurion Rebellion.

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Maybe the final five have something to do with why they can't rebuild the hub?
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I think it'd be a bit of an undertaking to rebuild the Hub, and if they get to Earth this week, there'll be more pressing concerns.
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The Centurians/Raiders HAVE to have some means of remote communication. The entire Cylon fleet withdrew when the one raider scanned Anders. Whether or not Baltar's centurian was broadcasting, however, is another story altogether.
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quote:
Originally posted by Zenox:

I loved the scene with Gaius and the Centurion. Any chance that the centurions have some way of communicating mind-mind, and that the seeds of rebellion are now further sown?

Did the rebellion really even need to get seeded? After being freed from decades of slavery, the nonhuman cylons are still pretty much guards, laborers, and soldiers. The only real sign we've gotten that anything has changed is one time when one of the cylons had to say please to get them to do something.

Unless there is something drastic that we haven't been shown, it seems as though a centurion rebellion was probably inevitable.

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If not seeded, then at least pushed ahead of schedule. His little talk, if spread, could definitely trigger an earlier rebellion.
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quote:
Originally posted by ricree101:
The only real sign we've gotten that anything has changed is one time when one of the cylons had to say please to get them to do something.

And when the Centurion shot one of the Eights when she unplugged the Hybrid. I'm still not entirely sure why that happened.
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I really like the symmetry of humans building cylons as drones who rebel against us. Then the cylons evolve and build drones who, hopefully, rebel against them too. A nice little circle of life
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...or death....
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Hello, my name is Richard and I'm a BSG-holic.

Phew, that was tough. OK so I'm only part way through the second series, but series three is now nestling in the bosom of my iPod. I expect to be posting here meaningfully shortly.

In the meantime, I wish I knew what you were going on about...


[Wink]

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I think it's important to note that SciFi will be streaming the full episode every hour from 0900 to 1600 (last one ends) tomorrow. I'm going to wait until the evening to watch it, but it'll be a close call.

And the AICN review of the media screening last night only made me more excited. It's not very spoilerific at all, so don't be afraid to click. [Smile]

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Ooh. I didn't realize the mid-season finale was here already. It sounds very, very promising.
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Telperion the Silver
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OMG I'm so excited!
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Hmm... just saw the last episode. Not a fan of the betrayal of the eights. Really, really not a fan. [Frown] But then I kinda have a crush on the eights, so I wouldn't be. Good episode otherwise.
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Oh man. Sounds awesome.

But I continue to wonder why, if the filming of the last episode will be done this month, they'll make us wait at least six months for the last 10 episodes. What's the point?

This show is easily in my top three favorites of any show ever made. It's spectacular and thrilling, and watching it all for the first time is a series of singular events, but I also feel like I'm being sucker punched by being dragged along on these long unnecessary waits. When Caprica comes out, I'm going to be seriously tempted to not watch it at all until the whole thing is done.

I hope they come out with the complete series DVD quick so I can buy it. I've specificially been not buying any dvds because I expected that Sci-Fi would release a special edition full collection like they did for SG.

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Where did you watch the last episode, Alcon?

I want to do the same!

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I think by last, he meant the latest ("The Hub" I believe it is called).

I'm actually not really looking too forward to this next episode. It is inevitably going to be a ~6+ month long cliff hanger, and given the latest developments, it's going to be a big one. The most I can hope for is that it gives us some more fuel for speculation. We seem to have run dry of that in the last few episodes.

What I really want are moderately vague events and dialog that can can be arranged in many different ways to fit the pre-existing facts to paint different pictures that may define the world we have been immersed in. Much like the end of Razor, or the episode where Starbuck came back. It's what a majority of Sci-Fi fans want! Puzzles!

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Telperion the Silver
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Ugh! I can't stop watching!
[Big Grin]

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Holy... [Angst] [Cry] [Hail]
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Wow... okay, so uh...


********SPOILERS FOR TONIGHT***************
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Next question, what the hell happened on Earth? And where the hell is the fifth? Not in the fleet, and from the looks of it Earth is also pretty lifeless. I think they left plenty of room for speculation with that end.

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Holy.... [Eek!] [Embarrassed] [Angst]


When does it come back again....wow...what a way to end...

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WOW!!! that was amazing!!!!!
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Wow... Just..... wow


It's not as though this was completely unpredicted, but it's something else to see it on the screen.

I really want to comment more, but I'll leave that until after the episode has aired on tv.

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Man, I really hate NBC/Universal right now. What's with the mid season breaks? 6 months til a new episode when they've already filmed them...why?
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WOW. The new AICN report puts the back half of the season at twelve hours, not the ten they'd originally planned.

There could be more!

(You lot are making it very tough to hold out from watching online, just so you know... [Wink] )


(edit to correct terminology)

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I had to watch it online...and wow...just...wow... are you serious about the 6 month break!?!?
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quote:
Originally posted by Alcon:
Wow... okay, so uh...


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It's just my personal opinion, but I think it'd be nice to hold off on spoilers until after it's aired. Even with the spoiler warning, it's treading a thin line.
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It's just my personal opinion, but I think it'd be nice to hold off on spoilers until after it's aired. Even with the spoiler warning, it's treading a thin line.
It's airing online right now -- officially on the Sci Fi website, and has been for hours (it's played 6 times to be precise). Most of us have clearly already watched it. Sorry, but I disagree as to where to place the arbitrary divider line of when it's okay to post spoilers. Waiting until it airs on TV is just ridiculously silly at this point.

If I'd downloaded it illegally or read them off a website, I might agree with you. But that's because chances would be that most people wouldn't have watched it yet. At this point it's clear most hatrackers reading this have already watched it. And those that hadn't when I posted still could before reading the spoiler.

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Well, I think we can compromise for the benefit of our fellow fans and be cautious with spoilers till after it airs on TV. I'm game with that.
[Smile] Although... as long as spoiler warnings are properly you are expected to have the strength of will not to look any further if you don't want to. [Big Grin]

[ June 13, 2008, 03:38 PM: Message edited by: Telperion the Silver ]

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I'm officially swearing off opening this thread until after 11:01 pm, EDT. Don't worry about spoiling me, because I won't be here to see it. [Big Grin]
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I was swearing it off too, but the crazed posts actually pushed me to watch it online for the first time. I missed the first 20 minutes though, so I have some catching up to do later tonight. I'll save comments until I get home from work later tonight as well.

But I have to say, I'm even more pissed now that we have to wait six plus months to find out what happens. We already waited like 9 months the last time, and now we might have to wait 9 more? I love BSG, but this seals it: When Caprica comes out, I'm not watching until the series finale airs.

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quote:
Originally posted by Alcon:
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It's just my personal opinion, but I think it'd be nice to hold off on spoilers until after it's aired. Even with the spoiler warning, it's treading a thin line.
It's airing online right now -- officially on the Sci Fi website, and has been for hours (it's played 6 times to be precise). Most of us have clearly already watched it. Sorry, but I disagree as to where to place the arbitrary divider line of when it's okay to post spoilers. Waiting until it airs on TV is just ridiculously silly at this point.

If I'd downloaded it illegally or read them off a website, I might agree with you. But that's because chances would be that most people wouldn't have watched it yet. At this point it's clear most hatrackers reading this have already watched it. And those that hadn't when I posted still could before reading the spoiler.

No big deal. Like I said, it was just a personal opinion. I watched it, but I'm not planning on saying anything about it before it airs on TV. YMMV, and apparently does.
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quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
We already waited like 9 months the last time, and now we might have to wait 9 more?

Last time we waited over a calendar year. Not that I was counting, or anything... [Wink]

I think I'd like to have Bear McCreary's babies.

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Wow!
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I think I'd like to have Bear McCreary's babies.
Get in line sparky. I've been wanting to have Bear McCreary's babies since the first season. Biology be damned!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_and_Earth#Part_VII:_Earth


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Entering the solar system of the uncharted star, they notice that it fits legends about Earth's solar system. The sixth planet has very prominent rings, much more so than any known gas giant. Also the third planet, the one fit for life, possesses an abnormally large moon for any planet other than a gas giant. Obviously this is Earth and its solar system.

On the approach to Earth, they detect that it is highly radioactive, and not capable of supporting life.

I'm worried now I'll lose interest in BSG, I really wanted to see a powerful interstellar Human republic capable of destroying any Cylon attack with ease, but now we see an irridiated Earth. I can never seem to keep an interest in scifi where Earth is not a powerful center of some empire or another, best example is that I never got into Andromeda.
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So, it finally finished airing in the Pacific time zone.

Can we talk about it yet?

First dibs on yelling

"They blew it up! Damn them! Damn them all to hell!"

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