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Another thought... I wonder how Helo will react to the eventual destruction of the Central Hub, an event on par with the destruction of the 12 Colonies, considering he betrayed the first mission to wipe the Cylons out with the genocide germ.
Will he try and sabotage this mission too?
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I think that the ethical difference there is that destroying the Hub doesn't destroy every Cylon--it just keeps them from being functionally immortal. They would still, theoretically, possess the ability to make new copies of the Seven, but without any ability to give them the old memories/lives of other copies.
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I rewatched "Guess What's Coming for Dinner" again and it seems they're not going in with guns blazing right away...that they'll jump in with the Basestar and trick the Cavil faction into thinking they are friendly's so they can sneak onboard.
But now that the Basestar's gone... well... who knows?
Human, I would agree except the Cental Hub is probably more, well, central to greater Cylon survival and the preservation of their society. Without downloading ability does that effect the Datastream and the ability for the Models to link with each other? What about communication with the far flung Cylon fleets?
The Resurrection ships and Hub facilitate downloading from vast distances... but couldn't a Cylon just link up physically with a new body and place a copy of it's mind inside?
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Okay, I kind of saw Lee coming as the president, sort of. But I didn't see Adama stepping down as Admiral and Tigh taking over.
Romo going loony was certainly strange to see. Was he having visions of the cat the whole time? Nice to see Lee give him Jake
And nice to see Adama finally admit his feelings out loud about Roslin.
My two big questions? D'Anna apparently reveals the final Cylon next week, and Roslin at the very least is likely present. I would imagine it'd have to be either someone who was on the baseship or Adama, who might have hooked up with them at that point. But supposedly none of them are in the running anyway. Anyway, should be interesting next week.
And also, who the heck is the father of Caprica's baby?! Obviously it isn't Saul. Baltar? Someone else? Immaculate conception?
Another great episode with big changes, great plot and intense dialogue.
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What do you mean it isn't Saul? Of course it is! He's been sleeping with her for weeks.
LOVED when Romo went crazy... freaked me out. I'm so sad for his kitty! I wondered why they were giving special time on the cat (not that I mind, cats rule!).
Interesting to hear more of how the Cylon Central Hub works...jumping and then relaying the data only to the Hybrids.
But I guess this info is for nothing... as the Central Hub is gone... RDM is pulling a Tolkien on us with this split time thing.
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Curiously, what leads you to believe that their specialness extends to their reproductive abilities?
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Well... Caprica Six being pregnant is the evidence. Tigh's been sleeping with her, she's suddenly pregnant, Adama is pissed that Tigh is literally sleeping witht he enemy. Why would Adam be upset at Tigh for Six being pregnant if Tigh wasn't the one who did it?
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Probably because Adama doesn't know that Tigh is a Cylon. Everyone in the fleet knows that a Cylon/Cylon union won't produce a child, so Tigh is the most obvious choice. What about Baltar?
I'm not counting out the possibility that the Final Five are biologically different than the others and that they could possibly procreate with other Cylons, but I like to look for more possibilities. If everything established is true and Tigh can't be the father, that means there's someone else in the picture, and who else wouldv'e slept with her? Or like I said, what if this is a new religious angle and there IS no father?
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Possibly... But I'm still of mind that Tigh is the father. Baltar has not been allowed to see Six at all so it can't be him. It could be the religious angle, but I doubt it... All the evidence and build up have been about Tigh and Six getting busy with each other. Shocking enough. But to have Six pregnant by Tigh? Even bigger, but logical, shocker.
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I'd say that it is very likely that Tigh is the father. While other people have been in with her, no one else has been in there with the cameras off and the guards sent away.
Also, does anyone else think that they're really starting to overuse the whole "if you don't believe me then go ahead and shoot". It isn't that bad in and of itself, but it seems to be popping up an awful lot lately.
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They aren't gonna reveal the final. My bet's the reveal Sam. He's one of the final five and he's on the ship. She didn't say "you're the fifth", she said "you're one of them". Either that or Tyrol (I can't remember if he's on the baseship). We know Sam is (pretty sure). And all the others are back on Galactica, and there's no way in hell they're revealing the fifth yet. They just want to keep making us think they are going to with the previews. The preview was structured to make us think Roslin's the fifth, it won't be.
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Oh yeah...good point, they didn't say that it was the fifth, just that someone gets outed. I didn't think that it was Roslin, despite the way the trailer is structured.
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Honestly, despite the fact that Lee is one of my favorite characters, 75% of me wanted Lampkin to shoot, just because I'm sick of people saying "pull the trigger" and then no one ever does. I almost think having him actually shoot but then have it be non-fatal and have Coddle save him might have been a lot better, even if it would've left Lampkin in jail.
I think my favorite part of Serenity was whem The Operative sits down and says "I'm unarmed," and Mal says "good" and pulls the trigger. But other than Mal and Han Solo, no one shoots.
I agree that it's overused, and I don't know why, but I'm itching for someone to say "okay!" and shoot!
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Keep in mind that whole prospect that the FF are so very different from standard cylons may not spread very far across the fan base. Just because we at Hatrack thought of it a long time ago doesn't mean everyone else figured it out. Of course, now everybody knows (or they suspect that the child is someone else's).
Was I the only one that laughed out loud at Tigh's face when Adama said "You've found out a lot about yourself..." and basicaly the entire scene in general? It was absolutely priceless. Boy is he gonna be PISSED when he finds out that Tigh is a Cylon, and knew about it at that time.
I almost don't care about what people will think about the other of the 4 known, but Tigh... that is gonna be damn good.
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Slightly confused. Was there no new episode Memorial Day weekend? I don't have cable TV anymore so I'm watching them on stream from SciFi rewind. My dad's been Tivo'ing them and he has nothing saved for the weekend of the 24th, and there doesn't seem to be an episode between Dinner (which I did get to see last week) and Sine Qua Non, which was this weekend's new ep.
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quote:I agree that it's overused, and I don't know why, but I'm itching for someone to say "okay!" and shoot!
I felt the same way. All of the characters are currently too safe. In order for the constant "life in peril" thing to work, I need to feel there's a chance that their life is actually in peril. I don't think that anybody of importance has died since Billy.
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quote:I agree that it's overused, and I don't know why, but I'm itching for someone to say "okay!" and shoot!
I felt the same way. All of the characters are currently too safe. In order for the constant "life in peril" thing to work, I need to feel there's a chance that their life is actually in peril. I don't think that anybody of importance has died since Billy.
Callie?
But I still agree with you. Part of the problem with threats like that is that it's not that dire for me, and there's zero drama to it because I KNOW they aren't going to shoot. There has to be a balance between no tension and say, Whedon's tendency to kill off half the cast just to show he can.
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quote:But other than Mal and Han Solo, no one shoots.
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang subverted this one, too. The bad guy got about a second and a half into his monologue. Posts: 37449 | Registered: May 1999
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quote:Originally posted by Telperion the Silver: Another thought... I wonder how Helo will react to the eventual destruction of the Central Hub, an event on par with the destruction of the 12 Colonies, considering he betrayed the first mission to wipe the Cylons out with the genocide germ.
Will he try and sabotage this mission too?
To answer myself, with the Central Hub already destroyed it looks like Helo won't be forced to make this choice.
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Well, since it's not actually wiping them out and since it's something they want to increase their appreciation of life...
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I hope that wasn't actually the Hub that was destroyed, because that would be pretty lame to have so much action take place off-screen.
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Jon Boy, I'll bet all the money in my pocket that the next episode will start right after the jump of the Baseship was made, and will take place from the point of view of the Baseship characters, and we'll see exactly what happened.
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And killing off characters completely randomly, now that I think on it again, isn't quite so fun. Characters should die when it's dramatically appropriate. Unlike so many shows, that "kill" someone, just to bring them back, to keep from having to change anything.
And also, to make sure the audience feels actual worry when a dramatic, dangerous situation comes up, that someone could actually die.
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The Hybrid is doing emergency jumps to bring itself to the Central Hub... unfortunatly this self defense mechanism will lead to the Cylons' undoing...
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Laura has finally hear the confession from Baltar that she always wanted... That he is the Butcher of Humanity... responsible for the deaths of 50 billion people.
And now she has given his proper death sentence... bleed to death you bastard!!!
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Better than I could've possibly expected. If warm fuzzies could destroy ships, that episode, especially the end, could take on a fleet.
But holy crap! Next week the crap REALLY hits the fan! And it's the end of this half of the season! After next Friday, no more BSG for...no one knows how long!
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And what about the Central Hub? Why wasn' it protected by more than one freaking Baseship?? It's the core of the Cylon nation... the most vital target possible. Ah well. Whatever. It is gone now. Cylons are doomed.
Thus will begin the annihilation/merger of the Cylons and Humans into one race.
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Looks like they see a planet from orbit and then are standing on the surface of one during the trailer.
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