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theamazeeaz
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My NES is awesome. Don't knock. I'm beating all the games I couldn't manage when I was 10.

I have to say, I die all the time with it, still. It's either extremely pathetic, or newer games make it a lot harder to die.

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Samprimary
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some old games ... hell, many old games are just insanely hard. it was a time before focus group qa.

remember battletoads?

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Samprimary
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like i remember being a kid and playing all these nes and sega games and feeling stupid and useless and i must just suck at games.

later on I'm 24 and playing them on emulator and thinking "wait one minute how did anyone expect normal people to beat this ever"

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Well, I put my name on the waiting list for the Zelda strategy guide from the public library. Several weeks later, it came in, and I had help for a while, and then I had to return it, and request it through ILL again. Lather, rinse, repeat, 3 or 4 times.
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quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
some old games ... hell, many old games are just insanely hard. it was a time before focus group qa.

remember battletoads?

I loved the Battletoads pause music

I wish I had the music skills necessary to remix that into modern dance music. I can practically heard the dubstep version.

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My cousin is a writer who is in the process of playing and reviewing every NES game that was released in North America. It seems like a vast percentage of them were darn near unplayable. But he's playing them, laws love him.

Questicle

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quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
some old games ... hell, many old games are just insanely hard. it was a time before focus group qa.

remember battletoads?

That damned game. I had to wait a long time until I could convince my parents to buy a game genie so I could get through that one without breaking down in a heap.
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Battletoads was hard but beatable; it just required repetition. The problem was that some of the levels (driving) were disproportionately hard compared to the others.

The real issue wasn't that it was hard, it was that the difficulty level was so high in a broad, commercially popular game. It was so over the top that most people felt it was broken.

Meh. I beat it without too much trouble. Ghosts N' Goblins was way harder.

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Ghosts N' Goblins? Please. Super Ghouls and Ghosts was where the difficulty was at.

Also I find it hilarious that the Wii emulator software can't render the game as well as the original Genesis. [Big Grin]

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Please don't remind me of Super Ghouls and Ghosts... I can't begin to count the number of lives I have lost in that game. [Frown]
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quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
like i remember being a kid and playing all these nes and sega games and feeling stupid and useless and i must just suck at games.

I was into Commodore 64, Amiga, and PC games rather than consoles, but yeah--while I was never hard on myself about it at all, I just took it as a given that I wouldn't always be able to beat a game. I'd get as far as I could, beat my head against the game's wall for a week or so trying to get past whatever the problem was, and then give up and move on to a different game.

[Edit - I'd also often tag team a game with friends, handing the contoller or keyboard off to one another as we collectively tried to get over this or that hump.]

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Originally posted by BlackBlade:
Ghosts N' Goblins? Please. Super Ghouls and Ghosts was where the difficulty was at.

Whoa now. Stand down. We were talking about the 8-bit generation.

If we were talking about the hardest game ever, I would have started blabbling about Nethack until my drool lied in a pool on my stool.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
Ghosts N' Goblins? Please. Super Ghouls and Ghosts was where the difficulty was at.

Whoa now. Stand down. We were talking about the 8-bit generation.

If we were talking about the hardest game ever, I would have started blabbling about Nethack until my drool lied in a pool on my stool.

I think Ninja Turtles on the NES was at least as hard as Battletoads.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/george-zimmerman-celebrity-boxing-match-confirmed-as-rapper-the-game-offers-to-fight-him-i-would-take-pleasure-in-it-9098750.html

zimmerman's Punch Out

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quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
"I think we've all been there, jobless with nothing but a bucket of hotdogs, a block of processed cheese, a van, an American flag, and a goddamn dream.

Or at least that was my initial impression. Since the campaign started, the guy has actually built his kitchen (look at the updates!), done some hotdog catering, set up his entire supply chain, and he appears to have his budget planned very well, albeit with the help of "How to Start a Hotdog Cart" eBooks. He's got a dream, man, and none of us and not even the devil himself is going to be able to stop him. Unlike a lot of crappy Kickstarters, I believe this is going to happen with or without our funding. This guy is Forrest Gump and his shrimping boat/hotdog stand might as well be built right next to the Field of Dreams. I don't mean to imply that he's an idiot, but that I admire his blind confidence and hotdog faith.

I come from Hipsterville where we only eat hotdogs ironically, as a joke, so that other people can look at us and say "Haha. That's hilarious. Let me take an Instagram of that. Imagine if you ate hotdogs and actually liked them." So this campaign touches me in ways both mystical and nostalgic. It makes me yearn for the days when I could eat bad food unironically and wear plaid because it's warm and because lumberjacks are cool, not because I'm trying to convey some dumb hidden message. Every time you eat a hotdog, you get to become a kid again for two minutes.

The hotdogs are hilarious, but I genuinely hate it when people get flak for "trying too hard." We badly need more people who try too hard. It's the most foolish insult to say, "I dislike you because I dislike effort." We are a generation of people who were told their entire lives by nurturing, caring, hippie parents they we are all geniuses. Every boy a wonderboy. Every child above average. But rare is a parent who doesn't care about test scores and IQs, but instead praises their kid only for trying and failing. Effort, man. Effort. That matters so much more than innate intelligence, than knowledge, than wit. You should try to do new things even when (hell, especially when) you think you will fail. This man is trying hard, with all his might, for an aspiration that isn't even lofty. It's humble man wanting for a reachable goal involving the most meager of foods in the tiniest of towns in the poorest of states.

Yeah, I'll be damned if I'm going to dislike a guy for trying too hard. It's apparent that he has turned to crowdfunding only because he has already put every spare dollar he owns into this business. I might not believe in the superior deliciousness of Doobie's hotdogs, but I want to believe in them. And I would eat one.

Another thing is that this appears to be a very small town where the median household income is 20 grand and the most prominent restaurant is a Subway. A hotdog stand, of all things, could affect real change there. It's a good story: The unfeeling internet hordes pulling together to fund a rural hotdog stand in Reform, Alabama. That is something I want to be part of. "Doobie's Dog House" is a name worthy of headlines. I want confused journalists to try to figure out what the **** happened, why it happened, and how they can possibly convey the idea of crowdfunding to their readers. It'll be like when CNN tries to explain memes. At the very least, this has the potential to make an entire town wonder about Something Awful. Someday, I would like to drive to Doobie's Dog House, eat a hotdog, and think of goons.

To finally answer your question about our motivations, it's definitely the third option. We are good and bad meats processed together and extruded as 6 foot tall tubes, both cynical and kind, complicated and salty. Goons are actual hotdogs. I pledged $25 for both entertainment and charity. If this works and there's a hungry Alabama goon who wants my hotdogs, they can have them. Just please take pictures so it's like a child sponsorship charity, only for meat tubes instead of impoverished children. If the Kickstarter fails, then I will have paid nothing and told a guy that I admire his efforts and his gumption."


goons power doobie's dog house (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/657642328/doobies-dog-house) to fruition

So, I contributed to this campaign and have been following Doobie on Facebook ever since. Doobie's Dog House opened last week, and has had an incredible amount of support from the local community. They had to close early on Saturday because they literally ran out of food to sell people. You can visit the Facebook Page to see some pictures of the place.

Incidentally, he's been more or less constantly harassed for half a year by people from the SA forums. Posting fake (bad) reviews of his establishment, posting racist and hateful messages on his page, and otherwise telling him he's a loser/failure/no good redneck, and disparaging him and his family. I honestly have no idea why they chose him to pick on, but I think it's despicable.

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Incidentally, he's been more or less constantly harassed for half a year by people from the SA forums. Posting fake (bad) reviews of his establishment, posting racist and hateful messages on his page, and otherwise telling him he's a loser/failure/no good redneck, and disparaging him and his family.
which goons are these? I haven't seen what GBS has been up to since the rules revisit but prior to that, SA was a huge part in making doobie's dog house happen, and what i posted was, in fact, from SA. were some other goons trying to derail that? or did they get fed up with doobie's (frequent) ineptitude over things like hood installation
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Other goons trying to derail it. You can go on and see the handful of comments that haven't been deleted if you want to see who.

FWIW, the dude managed to completely renovate his place of business, get a perfect score on his department of health inspection, build a business model, get contracts with Coca-Cola and other vendors, set up food delivery, build his own furniture/light fixtures, and have a grand opening within 7 months. And he did this with $14,000, doing most of the work and installation himself. Working another job on the side. That's not what I would call "inept". How many KS projects have a 7 month turnaround time?

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trust me, the doob had some .. rough spots in terms of being able to manage his business as a kickstarter return. it really almost got unrailed because he couldn't manage his own business model with even an outpouring of cash from SA and other sources.

he persevered though so i guess eat it haters. eat the delicious hotdogs

next up: RETURN ON STAR CITIZEN INVESTMENT?????? (??)

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Eh, this may seem a little strange, but when I saw his poorly written Kickstarter - made by an impoverished man with an (at best) high school level education, I didn't think "here is a great business manager!" But despite any flaws, he managed to accomplish his goal. He owns literally the only locally owned restaurant in Reform. He's now self employed, and has a means of bringing his family up out of poverty. He's been talking about hiring an employee, so he has a means of employing at least one other person in his town. And he's located right on the highway so he's bringing in a significant amount of revenue, too. Most importantly, he actually accomplished everything he set out to do in his KS in (IMO) a reasonable amount of time, and managed to start a business that will dramatically improve his and his family's lives, as well as improve an entire community. All for $14,000. That's not too shabby. I really don't understand where all this intense hatred for the man is coming from.
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what intense hatred

all i'm seeing is just general low-level mockery akin to the Terrible Webcomics Thread

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???

Look at some of the fake reviews, or how every announcement on his page harassing comments. Granted, the bad ones usually get deleted, but these pop up in my Facebook home from time to time. People mocking him and his wife. Calling him stupid. Making up lies about him and his restaurant. Keep in mind this is a public page, and most of the members are his friends and customers. They're directly attacking his ability to make a living with this "low-level mockery."

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i think i am failing to look in the right places. are these SA users confirming what they are doing somewhere i can check, or is this a case of Alleged Goon where we're talking about stuff offsite?
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My favorite NES game to this day is still River City Rampage.

Gang War? Check.

Kidnapping? Check.

8 bit nudity? Check.

Beating rival gang members with trash cans, boxes, lead pipes, sticks, baseballs, and even other gang members? Check.

Going into a restaurant and getting a free smile? Check.

Flipping around with a move called "Astro Circus? YEP.

I still love that game. It wasn't hard, but so enjoyable. Which is why I donated to the kickstarter for River City Rampage 2.

The hardest NES games I have played? Ninja Gaiden, Battletoads, TMNT, and Low G man. I don't think I ever passed the second level of Low G man. I beat Battletoads, TMNT, and Ninja Gaiden a few times.

Supposedly the hardest NES game of all time is The Silver Surfer. From what I have heard nobody has legitimately been able to beat it yet.

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I will have to keep that one in mind as an actual decent game. The two local used stores have crap selections (well one of them didn't used to, I bought everything that they had that was worth owning). I prefer to support local businesses.
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boy today is going to be a long day
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A SANCAP Liner Technology product. White paper PVDC - polyethylene. Sicocote 250A is a construction of white pigmented P/E and polyvinylidene chloride (PVDC) on a bleached Kraft paper. Color: White. Suggested product uses include concentrated coffee, corn oil, fruit extract, alcohol, after shave lotion, cold cream, cologne, cough syrup, cream deodorant, glass wax, starch, poison ivy lotion and radiator compound.

Sicocote 255A
A SANCAP Liner Technology product. White paper - polyethylene PVDC. Sicocote 255A is a construction of white P/E and polyvinylidene (PVDC) on a bleached Kraft paper. Color: Bleach Kraft Paper. Suggested product uses include after shave lotion, cold cream, cologne, cough syrup, hand soap, hair shampoo, concentrated coffee, glass wax, fruit extract, syrup and vinegar.

Sicocote 260
A SANCAP Liner Technology product. Natural Kraft paper PVCD polyethylene. Sicocote 260 is a construction of clear P/E and polyvinylidene chloride (PVDC) on a natural Kraft paper. Color: Natural. Suggested product uses include after shave lotion, cold cream, cologne, cough syrup, hand soap, poison ivy lotion, hair shampoo, alcohol, concentrated coffee, corn oil, syrup, fruit extract, vinegar and radiator compound.

Sicocote 265
A SANCAP Liner Technology product. Natural Kraft paper - polyethylene - PVDC. Sicocote 265 is a construction of clear P/E and polyvinlidene chloride (PVDC) on a natural Kraft paper. Color: Natural. Suggested product uses include after shave lotion, cold cream, cologne, cough syrup, hand soap, poison ivy lotion, hair shampoo, concentrated coffee, corn oil, fruit extract, syrup, vinegar and radiator compound.

Sicocote 417
A SANCAP Liner Technology product. Paper-backed aluminum foil with a heavy Saran coating. Sicocote 417 consists of a paper-backed aluminum foil with two coatings applied - a vinyl first coat and a saran second (top) coat. Color: White. Suggested product uses include after shave lotion, astringent, baby cream, beauty cream, cologne, deodorant stick, hair cream, hair shampoo, antacid liquids, mineral oil, floor cleaner and polish, furniture cleaner and polish, waxing compound and auto cleaner and polish.

Sicocote 470
A SANCAP Liner Technology product. Saran coated white paper. Sicocote 470 is a pigmented copolymer vinylidene chloride-acrylonitrile coating on a suitably primed white paper. Color: White. Suggested product uses include concentrated coffee, cottage cheese, mayonnaise, mustard, salad dressing, wine, cough syrup, mineral oil, liquid shoe polish, floor cleaner, hair dye, pine oil disinfectant and liquid shoe polish.

Sicocote 700
A SANCAP Liner Technology product. Paper-backed polyethylene coated aluminum foil. Sicocote 700 is a paper-backed aluminum foil coated with a white pigmented P/E. Color: White. Suggested product uses include after shave lotion, cologne, cream deodorants, cough syrup, olives, pickles, automotive polish, bleaching fluid, brake fluid, rubber cement, disinfectant, furniture polish, paint and solvents.

Sicocote 708
A SANCAP Liner Technology product. Paper-backed vinyl coated aluminum foil, with a slightly heavier coating of vinyl than Sicofoil. Sicocote 708 is a paper-backed aluminum foil liner coated with a pigmented vinyl chloride-acetate copolymer applied as a two coat system. Color: White. Suggested product uses include after shave lotion, astringent, facial cream, cream deodorant, hair cream, shampoo, antacid preparations, floor cleaner, bleach, liquid detergent, mustard, vegetable oil and whiskey.

Sicofoam
Manaufactured by SANCAP Liner Technology, Inc. Sicofoam is a backing material to which facings are laminated in the manufacture of duplex liners. It is a P/E foam which is extruded to the thickness desired.

Sicofoil
A SANCAP Liner Technology product. Paper-backed vinyl coated aluminum foil. Sicofoil is a paper-backed aluminum foil liner coated with a pigmented solution of vinyl chloride-acetate copolymer. Color: White. Suggested product uses include after shave lotion, astringent, baby cream, beauty cream, deodorant stick, hair cream, shampoo, cleaners and polishes, waxing compound and vegetable oil.

Sicoran WS
A SANCAP Liner Technology product. White pigmented Saran film on white paper. Sicoran WS is a white pigmented vinylidene chloride - vinyl chloride copolymer film mounted on white Kraft paper. Color: White. Suggested product uses include after shave lotion, cold cream, cologne, cough syrup, cream deodorant, hand soap, poison ivy lotion, hair shampoo, tincture of iodine, alcohol, concentrated coffee, corn oil, fruit extract, glass wax, starch and radiator compound.

Sifter Fitment
A plastic or metal component of a package designed to allow shaking out of dry products, as with a table salt shaker. Snaps over bead, with metal or plastic cap applied over the fitment.

Silkscreening
A method of printing in which the ink is forced through a design on a taut screen, made of nylon, wire, or other tough screen material, onto the container to be printed. This method can be applied to closures, liners and most containers regardless of shape or size.

Size
In SourceBase, Size is one of the search criteria. In the Glass and Plastic product types, Size refers to the nominal capacity of a bottle or jar. The nominal capacity is the intended capacity of the container. It is expressed in fluid ounces (oz), gallons (gal), milliliters (ml), drams, etc. In the Closure product type, Size refers to the outside diameter of a bottle or jar's neck finish, including the threads. The size is usually designated in millimeters (mm).

Skirt
The vertical part of a closure below the shoulder.

Sleeve Label
A decorated, plastic label made into a tubular form that fits over and on plastic bottles.

Slip Cap
(1) A metal closure with indentations on its sides to make a friction fit on a vial with a slip-cap finish. (2) A closure made of soft material such as polyethylene or rubber, without threads, to be pushed over the tip or neck of a container and held in place by friction.

Snap Top
The most prevalent hinged closure. This closure features a spud and orifice design that is sanitary and self cleaning to prevent clogging. It is available in a wide range of orifice sizes. The snap type can also be designed with an off center spout to direct product flow. The pour spout can be easily lined with a variety of heat sealed materials to ensure product freshness.

SoftSeal 200
Foamed EVA core with top and bottom layers of .002" thick low density polyethylene.

Solid Poly
Solid low density polyethylene.

Source-Certified
Within the context of raw material use, source-certified refers to materials that have been certified through programs run by organizations including, but not limited to, the Forest Stewardship Council and the Sustainable Forestry Initiative.

Sourcing
Sourcing, as used in the indicator definitions, refers to and includes all of the functions involved in the growth, harvest or extraction and processing or raw materials and the collection and processing of recycled and reused materials.

Space Saver
Refers to any pharmaceutical package such as the shelfline or blake style bottle which, because of it rectangular shape, takes up less storage space on the druggist's shelf.

Spatulas
Varieties for the cosmetics, pharmaceutical, food and laboratory markets.

Specimen Mailers
Fiberboard, paper screw-cap and aluminum specimen mailers.

Spike
A bottom defect. A small projection of glass in the center of the bottom of the container.

Spin Welding
A process of fusing two objects together by forcing them together while one of the pair is spinning, until frictional heat melts the interface. Spinning is then stopped and pressure held until they are "frozen" together.

Split Finish
A finish defect. A finish which has a crack, or split, across the top surface, extending from the top of the finish downward.

Spray Frosting
The technique of spray coating a glass container to create a frosted, matte translucent appearance.

Sprayers
Trigger, finger-tip, pump, continuous spray and metering sprayers, hose-end sprayers for lawn and garden, and compressed air sprayers. Different types of decoration are available, including silk-screen and hot stamp decoration.

SS
In plastic bottle manufacturing, silkscreen decoration. Also S/S.

ST-25P
A 3M Cap-Seal product. PVDC coated paper closure liner material that offers good resistance to chemicals, excellent resistance to brine solutions and vegetable oils, and offers very low moisture vapor and gas transmission rates. ST-25P imparts no taste or odor to the sealed product. The waxed version provides increased protection for products such as salad dressing and mayonnaise. ST-25P is a natural kraft tan color. Typical packaging applications include closure liners for citrus fruit extracts, pickles, vegetable oils, mayonnaise, salad dressings and powdered milk, as well as for anti-perspirants, alcoholic beverages, volatile disinfectants, etc.

Stabilizer
An ingredient used in the formulation of some plastics, especially elastomers, to assist in maintaining the physical and chemical properties of the compounded materials at their initial values throughout the processing and service life of the materials.

Stacker Cap
A closure designed specifically to nest with the bottom plate of a container to facilitate the stacking of filled containers on top of each other.

Stakeholders
As defined in the Global Reporting Initiative Guidelines, stakeholders are individuals or organizations with a legitimate interest in a given situation, action or enterprise. For performance measurement purposes, stakeholders are broadly defined as those groups or individuals; 1) who can be reasonably expected to be affected by an organization's activities, products and/or services; or 2) whose actions can reasonably be expected to affect the ability of the organization to effectively implement its strategies and achieve its objectives.

STC
Single trip container.

Stelvin(R)
The Stelvin(R) neck finish can be found on some glass wine bottles. It is a screw thread finish designed to accommodate the Stelvin(R) closure, an aluminium cap with a tamper evident breakaway band. Offers product preservation, a modern look and practicality. Offered by Alcan Packaging (Pechiney).

Stencils
Stencil kits and stenciling systems for a wide range of applications, including safety and maintenance.

Sterilization
Gamma irradiation, ethylene oxide, and electron beam sterilization. Installation of sterilization systems available for companies requiring in-house processing. Sterilizing cleaners and sterilized tests also available.

Stippling
A decoration consisting of a system of closely spaced small raised dots on the outer surface of a container or closure.

Stones
A general defect. Small inclusions of refractory or unmelted batch materials.

Stopper
A solid, cork-shaped, ground-to-fit plug used to seal some bottles.

Stoppers, Rubber
Laboratory quality, micro, and corrosion resistant stoppers.

Storage Life
The period of time during which a product can be stored under specified temperature conditions and remain suitable for use. Sometimes called shelf life or working life.

Stress Cracking
The susceptibility of a thermoplastic article to cracking or crazing under the influence of certain chemicals and stress. Frequently accelerated by the environment to which the plastic is exposed. The stresses which cause cracking may be present internally or externally or may be combinations of both.

Stressed Water Sources
The term "stressed source" or "stressed Watershed" refers to sources of water where the draw down rate is greater than the recharge rate. On a regional basis, stressed sources of water cannot provide enough water for all uses - Agricultural, industrial and domestic - due to depletion of water quantity and/or quality. The UN Commission on Sustainable Development suggests that water sources are stressed when freshwater resources fall below 1000-1500 cubic meters per capita per year.

Striation
In plastic bottle manufacturing, a longitudinal line in the parison or bottle due to a disturbance in the melt path.

Strip Mold
Mold action in the manufacture of closures: After the injection cycle is completed, the cavity is removed and the stripper sleeve moves forward forcing the closure to flare and strip over the core.

Style
In RapidFind, Style is one of the search criteria. In the Glass and Plastic product types, Style can refer to standard industry names, such as Cylinder, Boston Round, F-Style, Modern Round, Wide Mouth (W/M) Jar, etc. If a name is not standard industry-wide, Style refers to the sides of the bottle, i.e., straight sided, tapered, etc. In the Closure product type, Style designates standard industry names. If a closure has threads, the Style is Continuous Thread. Other Styles include Dispensing, Child Resistant Closure (CRC), etc.

Styrene Acrylonitrile
Similar to general purpose polystyrene except for improved impact resistance and barrier properties; increased rigidity and UV stability; natural straw color; transparent. Also see SAN.

Sunken Shoulder
A shoulder defect. A shoulder which is not fully blown.

SureSeal 200
Foamed low density polyethylene core with top and bottom layers of .002" thick low density polyethylene.

SureSeal 300
Solid EVA. The last two digits in the 300 series number indicate the percentage of vinyl acetate in the EVA.

SureSeal 400
Solid blend of low density polyehtylene and polyisobutylene. The last two digits in the 400 series number indicate the percentage of polyisobutylene in the blend.

SureSeal 500
Foamed low density polyethylene core with top and bottom layers of .002" thick high density polyethylene.

SureSeal 600
Foamed low density polyethylene core with top and bottom layers of .002" thick polypropylene.

SureSeal 700
Core is a proprietary blend of foamed polyolefins. Top and bottom layers are .002" thick low density polyethylene.

Surface Treating
Any method of treating the surface of a plastic item to accept inks, paints, adhesives and chemical, flame and electronic treating.

Sustainability (Corporate)*
Sustainability in the corporate sector encompasses strategies and practices that aim to meet the needs of stakeholders today while seeking to protect, support and enhance the human and natural resources that will be needed in the future.
*Numerous definitions of sustainability exist and increasingly organizations are customizing definitions of sustainability to incorporate the broadly accepted principles of the concept (i.e., a blending of economic, environmental and social concerns) with their own specific visions, goals and objectives. The definition provided here is intended to be generic and illustrative of the basic principle.

Sustainable
Process or state that can be maintained at a certain level indefinitely, to provide the best outcomes for the human and natural environments both now and into the indefinite future.

Sustainable Packaging System
A target vision for companies to strive for packaging that can be transformed into a cradle to cradle flow of packaging materials in a system that is economically robust and provides benefit throughout its life cycle. Sustainable packaging that is:

Beneficial, safe and healthy for individuals and communities throughout its life cycle;
Meets market criteria for performance and cost;
Sourced, manufactured, transported and recycled using renewable energy;
Maximizes use of renewable or recycled source materials;
Manufactured using clean production technologies and best practices;
Made from materials healthy in all probably end-of-life scenarios;
Physically designed to optimize materials and energy;
Effectively recovered and utilized in biological or industrial cradle to cradle cycles.

SW-25P
A 3M Cap-Seal product. PVDC coated paper closure liner material with good resistance to chemicals, excellent resistance to brine solutions and vegetable oils, and very low moisture vapor and gas transmission rates. SW-25P imparts no taste or odor to the sealed product. The waxed version of this paper provides increased protection for products such as mayonnaise and salad dressings. SW-25P is white in color. Some typical packaging applications include closure liners for citrus fruit extracts, pickles, vegetable oils, mayonnaise, salad dressings and powdered milk, as well as for anti-perspirants, alcoholic beverages, volatile disinfectants, etc.

Swabs, Medical
Cotton and foam swabs.

Syringes
Varieties include a dual syringe with snap-off nozzle tip, and specialty syringes with various tips for a wide variety of applications, including infant care, feeding small animals or birds, and applying glues, dyes, lotions, resins and inks.

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*kickflips through wall, lands on neck*
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What on Earth is all that Samprimary?
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I was wondering if I should whistle it....
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no, no, something better to whistle would be this:
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Hello to Hatrack website, I am to take great interest in message you have, to which respond is Get Childhood Stationary Memories for best home Stationary only $5.99 generic
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get Best unencrypted US military wireless in Jamaica
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quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
What on Earth is all that Samprimary?

today's adventures in the tricorbraun encyclopedia of packaging terminology wthb34tuh435puhsw;pfh
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I also tried to beat battletoads recently. Didn't end well.
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yeah, the ending of battle toads is a bit unsatisfying, but that is how i feel when most games get beat
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more than that it's just a ridiculously over the top example of when games didn't really have adequate playtesting

i mean you'd think that they would be like 'ok so all the actual kids who come in to play our game can't get past the racetrack and so they don't ever see 80% of our game this is a problem right?'

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the bike race was always a problem, and i always dropped a bunch of lives in that pit where they lower you down on ropes
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Also Hamburgers are totally sandwiches, they are the sandwiches of liberty!
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because they're german right
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quote:
Originally posted by Marek:
the bike race was always a problem, and i always dropped a bunch of lives in that pit where they lower you down on ropes

Playing that game on "co-op", it was pretty much impossible not to turn that level into a back and forth game to see who could "wrecking ball" the other person to death the most.
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quote:
Originally posted by ricree101:
quote:
Originally posted by Marek:
the bike race was always a problem, and i always dropped a bunch of lives in that pit where they lower you down on ropes

Playing that game on "co-op", it was pretty much impossible not to turn that level into a back and forth game to see who could "wrecking ball" the other person to death the most.
Yeah, the answer to who, was always my brother, hence it costs me many lives. I miss that game
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"co op"
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you fools
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so re: title is it just me or is half the country straight demented on the subject of Berghdal's release

I am getting a MAJOR vibe of "If Obama does it, it is therefore wrong" from it

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Yep. Half the country is demented. They didn't seem to be demented until the President did it and then they became demented.
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Eh. WHile the strength of the ire is no doubt fueled by that for many people, there are legit questions about whether or not it should have been done at all-prisoner exchanges being tricky and all that-and if so, whether it should have been done for this particular soldier (I am not well informed about him, though, and unless he had actually deserted and this can be proven, then it being done for him specifically wouldn't be a thing for me), and particularly whether or not the President has or ought to have the authority to do this on their own.

Not that reluctance to exercise executive authority has exactly been a hallmark of either of Obama's terms, but even so.

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quote:
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Yep. Half the country is demented. They didn't seem to be demented until the President did it and then they became demented.

i am really just getting the sense that what obama did re: berghdal is something they had been asking obama to do before and stuff they had been fine with when republican presidents did it, but suddenly it's traitorous impeachable OUTRAGE, because obama should have left an american to have his desertion trial handled by the taliban or whatever (???). i mean it seems so demonstrably clear that i'm just lost as to whether i should take the critics of this action seriously or just flip them off
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You mean like how Democrats were outraged at executive overreach and militarism in the Bush Administration, but there is hardly a peep when it comes to widespread drone strikes and assassinations?

Eh. To me, foreign policy and campaign finance really are two of the areas of equivalence between the two parties.

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Not sure where you are listening if you are hearing hardly a peep when it comes to drones. Most of the lefty columnists that I read are pretty furious about it and have been for some time.
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Well, see, America is clearly the Supreme Good in this world. The rest of the world = bad, America = good; everyone agrees with that, especially since we beat the Bad Guys (i.e. everyone else) in World War II. We'll show the Bad Guys again who's boss as soon as Obama leaves office, because Obama is a bad guy from Kenya. He got elected because liberals.

The problem with Bergdahl is that he was originally a good guy but then he became a Bad Guy because he changed his opinion of America. Especially while serving in the military.

This is as Bad as it gets.

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