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Phanto
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Never liked that comic :/.
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I don't think that Mohinder is so blinded by a desire for revenge that he hasn't considered the repercussions of what he is doing. I'm sure he has a contingency plan on getting Molly out of their hands and into hiding.

The only glaringly stupid thing that he's done is not put a bullet in Sylar's brain when he had the chance (twice). Both times Sylar was out cold. So rather than stupidity, it may just be that he has a hard time killing someone execution style (or at all).

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Well, I suppose we COULD give him the benefit of the doubt. We'll soon see.

I wish that the writers would have indicated some motivation (or anti-motivation) for Mohinder not shooting Sylar when he had the chance. Ah well.

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Heroes has already spawned a spin-off.

Next year, "Heroes: Origins" will introduce a new Hero every week and we the people get to pick who stays and who goes.

I guess NBC decided the best thing to do was breed the two biggest hits, Heroes and American Idol, and then air their demon spawn on television. I don't mind a spinoff, heck, I'd love for them to do a show about Linderman's generation, I think it could be cool. But THIS sounds goofy.

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quote:
Next year, "Heroes: Origins" will introduce a new Hero every week and we the people get to pick who stays and who goes.
I wish they would implement this on the real "Heroes" just once, so that we could kick Niki off of the show.

Ali Larter has cemented herself in my mind as my least favorite actress for years to come.

But yeah, in general, this sounds really dumb. I hope they don't kill the show with these sorts of ideas.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
Heroes has already spawned a spin-off.

Next year, "Heroes: Origins" will introduce a new Hero every week and we the people get to pick who stays and who goes.

I guess NBC decided the best thing to do was breed the two biggest hits, Heroes and American Idol, and then air their demon spawn on television. I don't mind a spinoff, heck, I'd love for them to do a show about Linderman's generation, I think it could be cool. But THIS sounds goofy.

Please tell me you're joking.
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Was just reading through and saw this back on page 29...

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Originally posted by theCrowsWife:
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Originally posted by ludosti:
I don't think Sylar killed DL - I vaguely remember his name being on the list of people (to help break out past-Hiro) future-Hiro brought to Mr. Bennet.

Candace's name was on that list, too, but it still turned out that Sylar had killed her.

--Mel

When Parkman was talking to Bennet they mentioned the arrangement they had where Parkman got the "dangerous ones" and Bennet hid the others. I think DL and Candace went to Bennet to hide them and he turned them over to Parkman (who then turned them over to Sylar as Nathan). Bennet called Parkman on Hiro and Ando after all - probably to maintain his end of the deal in part and probably since he couldn't produce the people on the list that Hiro brought him since he had betrayed them...
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quote:
Heroes has already spawned a spin-off.

Next year, "Heroes: Origins" will introduce a new Hero every week and we the people get to pick who stays and who goes.

[Eek!]

I don't know whether to do this [Wall Bash] or this [Cry] .

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I should just stop watching in two weeks. I've had my heart broken way to many times by network television. I just don't think that I can ever love again. It may have to be all about the DVD releases for shows.
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9/10 for that one, and I hate to give out such high scores will-nilly.

I LOVE Hiro's dad. Japanese sentimentality/drama is so cute/touching.

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An enjoyable episode. It started off a bit slow, but it did what it needed to do: set up the big season finale. I'm really looking forward to it. I probably won't get to see it till the week after next though, as I'll be in Hawaii next week (with probably no real access to TV and internet).
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funny how a sci-fi show can have the same finale drama as 24 -- nuke about to go off, how to stop it.
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Michael Shanks is now on 24, I may just have to go and watch it now.
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quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
Heroes has already spawned a spin-off.

Next year, "Heroes: Origins" will introduce a new Hero every week and we the people get to pick who stays and who goes.

I guess NBC decided the best thing to do was breed the two biggest hits, Heroes and American Idol, and then air their demon spawn on television. I don't mind a spinoff, heck, I'd love for them to do a show about Linderman's generation, I think it could be cool. But THIS sounds goofy.

As I understand it, Lyr, "Origins" will be an anthology-type show, not a "contest show" per se. There -will- be voting, but it will be conducted online, not within the actual series.
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This episode was pretty messed up. I didn't think Linderman would die, and I certainly didn't think DL would take him out like that. On the bright side, while Niki still annoyed the crap out of me, I actually liked Jessica.

Mohinder still gets my vote for dumbest smart person ever. Bennett has announced that he fears Molly because his daughter will never be safe while she lives. All Mohinder has to do is offer to take Molly away and hide her from the Company. Bennett would even help him do it.

I'm really curious as to why Parkman didn't hear Mohinder and Molly. Were they just too far away, or should I expect the Haitian to pop up in the next room?

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quote:
Originally posted by AvidReader:
This episode was pretty messed up. I didn't think Linderman would die, and I certainly didn't think DL would take him out like that. On the bright side, while Niki still annoyed the crap out of me, I actually liked Jessica.

Mohinder still gets my vote for dumbest smart person ever. Bennett has announced that he fears Molly because his daughter will never be safe while she lives. All Mohinder has to do is offer to take Molly away and hide her from the Company. Bennett would even help him do it.

I'm really curious as to why Parkman didn't hear Mohinder and Molly. Were they just too far away, or should I expect the Haitian to pop up in the next room?

I'm agreed on several counts. My wife asked, "Why the heck don't they just TALK to each other?"

Lots of people died in this episode: it was almost like a season ending episode of 24 in that regard! Let's see:

Linderman
DL (presumably)
Ted
Bennett's former boss

Did I miss anyone?

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DL was in the "coming next week" scenes, so he might not be down yet.

I did get my son to crack up by yelling, right after Sylar got Ted, "You killed Ted, you medieval dickweed!"

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Damn Chris.. I wish I had said that.
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Bennett killing Thompson was the best thing I've ever seen. None of this, "Now I've got you. Any last words? Do you know why I'm going to kill you? Do you know what your biggest mistake was? How about those Cubs? Oh, yeah, I'm really going to shoot you. Any second now. So don't try and make a play for my gun or anything like that while I'm distracted."

Just "bang". Granted, there was the requisite snide comment, but then just... "bang". I liked it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lisa:
Bennett killing Thompson was the best thing I've ever seen. None of this, "Now I've got you. Any last words? Do you know why I'm going to kill you? Do you know what your biggest mistake was? How about those Cubs? Oh, yeah, I'm really going to shoot you. Any second now. So don't try and make a play for my gun or anything like that while I'm distracted."

Just "bang". Granted, there was the requisite snide comment, but then just... "bang". I liked it.

Agreed. Of course, the snide comment would have been cooler AFTER being shot by Bennett, because then it wouldn't have given the dude any warnings. Ah well.
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I have never yelled at the T.V. so much in my life, either in joy or anger, then I did last night watching heroes. When Ted died I too screamed obscenities, I was not a happy camper. But when Thompson and Linderman died, I was Jumping up and down with excitment.
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Yes, the killing of Thompson was efficent and sweet, and rather pleasant -- no digressions, nothing. In real life, you need to kill the person about to kill you, not equivicate.

The ending scene with the speech and changing views was touching, very strong dramatically and well within the confines of good taste.

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Why didnt't Ted blast Sylar when he started to cut open his head? Does Sylar jam people's power when he does that?
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I'd imagine that the pain of getting the top of your head removed would distract you enough that you wouldn't think to use your power.
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Darn all of you and your discussing Heroes! I was out last night and missed it and now I have to wait until Friday on SciFi! [Cry]
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So does Physcal illness and fatigue affect the powers of all the mutants? Like the virus affected Mollys abilty to locate people?
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if powers are biologically inclined yes.
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Does anyone else think that maybe when DL put his hand through Linderman that he may have been healed?
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quote:
Originally posted by Damien.m:
Does anyone else think that maybe when DL put his hand through Linderman that he may have been healed?

I doubt it, but I suppose it's possible.
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vonk: You could always watch it on the website.
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I've watched the last 6 online. It's so much better than sitting through commercials.
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My first thought when Linderman got to Nathan's house was that he was going to heal his wife. Granted I only called it about two minutes before it actually happened, but I still totally called it. [Smile]

I like Hiro's father now. I thought he was a bit of a dick at first, and I still thought he was in league with Linderman, but the way he helped his son, and let him go off and follow his destiny, that was really cool. That whole scene was cool, with the possible exception of how unbelievable it was that Hiro became a sword master in like an hour. I guess the George Takei School of Swordsmanship is some potent stuff.

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FYI: Sci-Fi channel is having a Heroes marathon on Saturday. 21 episodes.
http://www.scifi.com/schedulebot/index.php3?date=19-MAY-2007&feed_req=

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Here is a clip that includes Masi Oka being interviewed at a comic book store. His impression of George Takei is hi-frakkin'-larious.
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Finally! After three weeks of missing it, I caught up last night. Stupid slow internet connection takes forever to download the episodes.

I'm really thinking that Mama Petrelli will die. She and Linderman are the power players behind the nuclear bomb and they were both conspicuously absent from the future episode. Now Linderman is dead. That just leaves Mama Petrelli.

The comic seemed to indicate that Papa Petrelli didn't have any power (when he met up with Linderman in Vietnam). But then Mama Petrelli says that he had some crazy power or something. I'll be curious as to the heritage of the Petrelli family.

Big thing: Unless there are multiple people who can walk through walls (logically sound but that would be annoying for them to throw in duplicate powers on the show), the future has changed. Well, it's changed if DL really died, because Sylar won't have his power.

Yeah, I'm definitely really curious as to who's going to blow up. I knew it wouldn't be Ted. But Sylar and Peter really look kind of a like. The pictures of the burning man could just as easily be one or the other. Peter can control his ability now, and there really hasn't been any precedent for him losing control of an ability he already has, just having a hard time harnessing it to begin with. Sylar seems to have his mind set on blowing the city up now. It seems almost like the end result of the future can't be changed, but the specifics can. Like, now instead of Peter blowing up, Sylar will. Still a big boom. But then ... if Sylar can't regenerate, will he die when he blows up? Gah! I don't know.

Interesting thing - In the future, the legislation which made it hard for mutants to live was called the Linderman Act. Maybe in honor of him? But he was always a shadowy behind the scenes player. And also, in the future they mentioned a war. I don't think that really has any bearing on anything, but seriously, if Peter were on one side and he mastered the ability of teleporting/stopping time, how could his side lose the war?

Final thoughts: Ando going off with the sword was awesome. Ando, one of the two main characters (the other being Bennet) without a power, going off to kill the most dangerous character in the show. Bennet offing Thompson was sweet. And I really really don't trust Suresh anywhere near a gun. He will find some way to screw the situation up.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lisa:
Here is a clip that includes Masi Oka being interviewed at a comic book store. His impression of George Takei is hi-frakkin'-larious.

Maybe I am just stupid but I can't find the link to the actual video on that page anywhere [Frown]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr Strangelove:
Final thoughts: Ando going off with the sword was awesome. Ando, one of the two main characters (the other being Bennet) without a power, going off to kill the most dangerous character in the show. Bennet offing Thompson was sweet. And I really really don't trust Suresh anywhere near a gun. He will find some way to screw the situation up.

Suresh is without powers also. Or did I forget something.
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Lisa:
Here is a clip that includes Masi Oka being interviewed at a comic book store. His impression of George Takei is hi-frakkin'-larious.

Maybe I am just stupid but I can't find the link to the actual video on that page anywhere [Frown]
Right under the headline, there's a window with a picture of Masi Oka and Kristin standing in a comic book store. It's an embedded video. If you click on it, it'll play.

If you don't have Javascript enabled in your browser, it should say "You must have JavaScript enabled to watch Vine Videos".

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quote:
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But then ... if Sylar can't regenerate, will he die when he blows up?

I don't know, but Ted did seem ok after that whole thing in the Bennet house, even though it burned Claire pretty badly.
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Sylar wasnt killed in the new timeline because Hiro by traveling in the future isnt there to kill Sylar so things are still up for grabs.
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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove:
But then ... if Sylar can't regenerate, will he die when he blows up?

I don't know, but Ted did seem ok after that whole thing in the Bennet house, even though it burned Claire pretty badly.
Good point. I hadn't considered that.
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quote:
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Sylar wasnt killed in the new timeline because Hiro by traveling in the future isnt there to kill Sylar so things are still up for grabs.

But Hiro came back.
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now he did, remember this is time travel we are talking about, he came back so now the future will change again.
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In the future timeline, Hiro didn't kill Sylar until AFTER the nuclear blast went off anyway, so though much has already changed, killing Sylar after or before the blast can still happen. Though, since we now know that Hiro never actually killed Sylar, it's kind of a moot point.
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quote:
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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove:
Final thoughts: Ando going off with the sword was awesome. Ando, one of the two main characters (the other being Bennet) without a power, going off to kill the most dangerous character in the show. Bennet offing Thompson was sweet. And I really really don't trust Suresh anywhere near a gun. He will find some way to screw the situation up.

Suresh is without powers also. Or did I forget something.
Nope, I forgot something. Lucidity is not always my strong point.
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quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
In the future timeline, Hiro didn't kill Sylar until AFTER the nuclear blast went off anyway, so though much has already changed, killing Sylar after or before the blast can still happen. Though, since we now know that Hiro never actually killed Sylar, it's kind of a moot point.

Edit: I basically said the same thing you did. lol
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Marathon going on at SciFi right now. I'm disappointed, though, I was hoping for the whole thing. They started with episode 9, will go through to the end, and cap it off with the pilot.
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NBC currently has ALL the episodes available on their web site to watch for free.
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The show had a really different feel at first, I think. It's a pity it's gonna be a one season thing, and even moreso that we're gonna be bombarded in spin-offs, but it was a good thing while it lasted, and having that hour of my week back will be nice.
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Certainly Heroes will spawn a number of similar sci-fi/fantasy type shows from NBC and other networks, because what works is copied, that's television.

But the only official spinoff is an 8 episode arc called Origins, and it will show during a two month hiatus next season specifically to make sure that people don't lose interest during the long hiatus (as happened this year). At first I didn't like it, but having something to watch during the break sounds nice, I just think the voting angle is pretty stupid.

And there's no cause to fret yet, there's no reason to believe that S2 of Heroes will be bad, or of lesser quality than S1.

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