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The Haitian is the traitor, I think. He turned traitor against Mr. Bennett at the end. I am wondering why Sylar was content to just sit in that room if he had the strength the shatter that glass all along. That part didn't make a lot of sense to me.
Anyone else love how Peter and Matt together produced high squeal feedback? I thought that was really well done.
I don't like the "romance" between Matt and the FBI chick. Awfully predictable.
If they kill off Peter I'm going to be really upset. He's one of my most favorite characters and that actor, of all the rest, looks the most like a comic book character come to life.
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The "FBI chick" sets off my gaydar, but I think it's because that actress was a lesbian in a movie once... In any event she seems to be straight enough to find Matt "cute"
I was bummed that Eden died... I liked her.
This is one of those shows that makes me look at my watch and think "OH NO!!! Only 10 minutes left!"
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I think one of Sylar's abilities is control over metal and Eden's gun was the first metal that came near him.
I think the Haitian guy's power is to cloud memories, but I think the power dampening ability belongs to Claire's dad. He wasn't there, so Sylar could affect Eden's gun.
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quote:Anyone else love how Peter and Matt together produced high squeal feedback? I thought that was really well done.
That was what my freaking cooool line was about. It wasn't just the squeal, but the whole back and forth with both the physical and "what the heck is he doing?" thing. Both of them played it really well. If this hadn't immediately been followed by best Studio 60 episode so far, this ep would have been my favorite TV in a long time.
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Claire's dad has the power to block others powers. It would seem to always be active. He was blocking the cop from reading their minds. He was able to block Syler from using his TK. He was able to block Eden from making him do things.
Sylar was able to use his TK on Eden but not the dad. The Hatian can remove memories but he can not do it to the dad. The one time Claire hurt herself when her dad was around, she kept bleeding. He has never been around when she was hurt.
Peter has been exposed to quite a few powers. Claire, Hiro, Nathan, Issac, Sylar, Matt, Claire's dad.
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I also expect the new episodes in Jan. to start off slow again.
This show has done a great job of starting off slow and building tension. They did a fairly nice job of having a nice climax this week and last, but I do not think that they can maintain and build for another 10 -12 weeks or so.
So expect the show to start off slow again next year.
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It might be that Peter gets too close to the radiation guy but hasn't had the time/experience to learn to control it.
I don't think Sylar had control over the gun or the glass - he TKed Eden and pulled her through it, then she turned the gun on herself to stop him from having her power.
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But if Claire's dad dampens powers, how could he have followed through on Eden's plan anyway?
How could he be with Eden enough to dampen Sylar's power and yet allow Eden to control him?
No no it was The Haitian who by standing near the interrogation room blocked the cop's mind reading power. The only other time that happened was when he saw the Haitian in the bar, as stated in the episode. Man the cop is the ONLY person I don't have a name for, I need to pay attention.
Additional evidence of this is in the 2nd episode I believe Claire's dad with the Haitian chased down Nathan and he was still able to fly away with Mr. Bennett in front of him.
edit: How was Sylar able to disregard Eden's commands the second time but not the first? Was it because he was weakened the first time? Or was it like the cop where Eden had to tell him a few times to go get donuts?
I was sad to see Eden die, I really liked her character by the yesterdays episode.
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Sylar didn't disregard Eden's commands. She told him she was going to put the gun into the room with him, and that when she did, he was going to pick it up and blow his head off.
He didn't give her time to put the gun in the room. In fact, it may have been his desperation when he realized that he had exactly until she put the gun in the room with him to live that gave him the impetus to slam her through the window.
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There still had to be some kind of dampening effect, or was Clair's dad just counting on physical strength of the cell to thwart Sylar? Neither he nor the Haitian remained present at all times.
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quote:Originally posted by Lisa: Sylar didn't disregard Eden's commands. She told him she was going to put the gun into the room with him, and that when she did, he was going to pick it up and blow his head off.
He didn't give her time to put the gun in the room. In fact, it may have been his desperation when he realized that he had exactly until she put the gun in the room with him to live that gave him the impetus to slam her through the window.
Ohhh good point.
GS: Perhaps there was something about the room that dampens Sylar's power. I don't think there is enough evidence that Mr. Bennett dampens people's power.
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Peter first acted sick when the Bennetts showed up at the jail. Could his sickness be some Peterish version of Mr. Bennett's power, whatever it is?
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Chris: What I meant was if Eden had had her plan accepted by Mr. Bennett how would he have been able to suppress Sylar's power and still allow Eden to use her power if he just has some sort of dampening field?
Puppy: Perhaps Peter being in close proximity to Sylar is making him sick? He did have that nightmare where Sylar spoke to him.
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quote:Originally posted by Puppy: Peter first acted sick when the Bennetts showed up at the jail. Could his sickness be some Peterish version of Mr. Bennett's power, whatever it is?
Hmm... maybe they're opposites. Peter absorbs the powers of others without reducing their power, and Mr. Bennett damps powers. So Peter is trying to absorb the power of damping powers, including his own... that could cause a nastier feedback loop than the one he had with Parkman.
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quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: Chris: What I meant was if Eden had had her plan accepted by Mr. Bennett how would he have been able to suppress Sylar's power and still allow Eden to use her power if he just has some sort of dampening field?
The dampening could be (a) under volitional control, and/or (b) directional.
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quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: Chris: What I meant was if Eden had had her plan accepted by Mr. Bennett how would he have been able to suppress Sylar's power and still allow Eden to use her power if he just has some sort of dampening field?
The dampening could be (a) under volitional control, and/or (b) directional.
I've considered that possibility.
The whole Nathan incident is the only thing that really makes me question Mr. Bennett possibly having that power.
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Possible they didn't know Nathan could fly? They looked pretty damned surprised when he Supermanned himself away from the situation.
If we assume that it is either Haitian or Bennett that has the ability to cancel out powers, and since the Haitian is ALWAYS there, I don't think you can by any means rule him out, then either way that's a plot hole, that Nathan escaped.
The difference is what Lisa pointed out, is his ability automatic, like a bubble that surrounds him (think ysalimiri and the Force from Star Wars)? Or is it something that he HAS to turn on and focus on someone, and how much control and concentration does that take?
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It is note worthy that Mr. Bennett has always left before the Haitian erased someone's memory and has never been with Eden when she has used her power.
I wonder what the connection is between Peter's dreams and his power. Bennett indicates that no one but Sylar has exhibited multiple powers. But Peter has both prescient dreams and is able to mimic others powers when he is in their presence. Are these somehow two different manifestations of one power or is he another exception?
Why hasn't Bennett had the Haitian erase Peter's memory? He has tried to erase everyone elses memory who knew about Claire, why not Peter? We saw the Haitian in the police office where Peter was being held but maybe erasing memories takes physical contact so it couldn't be done through the locked door. Or perhaps Peter's ability to assume other's powers makes it impossible or too dangerous for the Haitian to erase his memory.
Why didn't Bennett have the Haitian erase Sylar's memory of Claire?
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I'm betting that Bennett works for Linderman.
I also quite confident that Eden shot herself in the head to keep Sylar from assuming her power. I think the expression in his face confirmed that.
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I think the dreams are echoes of the powers. They are either telling him that he's absorbed them, or they are a latent form of the power itself. He dreamed of flying when he was around Nathan more than once. Now he's dreaming about New York, but that wasn't him actually seeing the future I don't think. Too strange that the city would be abandoned, especially since in Hiro's future, no one had any warning about the explosion, especially with the exception of all our known heroes who'd gathered there. And for that matter, that Claire would still be wearing that damned uniform even after having left the state of Texas.
I'm wondering if the range of his power is increasing, and he was picking up an echo of Isaac, seeing the future, but not as clearly as he had before, some sort of shadow that his mind mixed with a dream to make it less sure, and more subjective.
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quote:Originally posted by The Rabbit: I'm betting that Bennett works for Linderman.
I also quite confident that Eden shot herself in the head to keep Sylar from assuming her power. I think the expression in his face confirmed that.
Eh. Considering he's tried or threatened to make people do that to themselves before, I don't know. Besides, we really don't know how his power works. If he is making genetic alterations, as Bennett said, then doesn't he just need their DNA and not a fully intact brain? There's no proof that blowing her head off would protect her powers from him, unless Eden knows something we don't, which I'm not convinced she does.
And I'll be disappointed if he works for Linderman.
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Yes it was fear of what Sylar would do with her power that made her destroy her brain, incredible courage, and the frustration on Sylar's face! A superman who had something not go his way...
Peter is over and over described as an Empath, that could encompass everything we have seen, it could be that the links he forms remain as the source of his visions. If he is linked with Sylar then I think that accounts for his illness. I am surprised that Eden did not tell Sylar that he would no longer use his powers, or that the Haitian did not shell him out. I think a list of Sylar's victims powers would be helpful, is that part of the comic book doctrine?
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quote:Considering he's tried or threatened to make people do that to themselves before, I don't know. Besides, we really don't know how his power works. If he is making genetic alterations, as Bennett said, then doesn't he just need their DNA and not a fully intact brain?
When he forced the cop to point the gun at her own head before, she wasn't someone whose power he wants. The look on his face when Eden shot herself was telling. Its quite clear this wasn't what he wanted. Since the super powers are the result of genetic mutations, it is only logical to assume that Sylar must alter his DNA to get the powers but we have no idea how he is able to do that. The only information we have is that he has taken the brains of every victim. In last weeks episode he said something about the powers being in their brains. All the evidence indicates that he needs the brains in order to get the powers even if it still isn't clear what he does with the brains. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, it makes no sense to assume he can get the powers without the brains.
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Also, the net comic has Bennett saying that Eden was Hero because she sacrificed herself to prevent a horrible man from getting her power.
So, NYAH.
I don't think the comic suggested that Sylar was still in custody, because I was not sure that the guy in that frame was Sylar. He looked like a pin cushion, making hime more likely a victim of Sylar.
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quote:In the absence of evidence to the contrary, it makes no sense to assume he can get the powers without the brains.
I can't get to the comic right now with my internet having issues, and I don't recall the look on Sylar's face, though I'll check that out later too.
I merely meant, that it shouldn't have been assumed that the brain had to be INTACT for him to get whatever secret he wanted out of it. I think we can all assume by now that he needs the brain to steal their powers, but this is the FIRST proof that we've seen that he needs the brain to be unharmed when he rips it from their skull. Charlie afterall had the aneurism, but we've yet to see him exhibit her power, or see if he suffered from the same problem after stealing it.
In absence of evidence to the contrary, it makes no sense to assume that the brains need to be in any certain condition before he can absorb their abilities, especially since we have zero evidence on exactly what the heck he does to get their powers.
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Okay. That would be good. I guess I found it hard to tell on account of the total lack of resemblance some of teh comic characters have to their live action counterparts.
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quote: If we assume that it is either Haitian or Bennett that has the ability to cancel out powers, and since the Haitian is ALWAYS there, I don't think you can by any means rule him out, then either way that's a plot hole, that Nathan escaped.
Hi. A friend has recently gotten me into this show, I've seen the first 5 or so and last nights. I saw Nathan escaping as surprising too. Perhaps the Haitian can only erase mind powers, like the cop's, but not body one's like flight or Claire's regen? This was probably disproved in a recent episode--I need to catch up!
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Couple more comments, sorry: Comparing our "good" heroes with Sylar, I think only Peter and Hiro stand any chance against him, and only if Peter figures out how to use Sylar's powers against him quick.
And I really doubt Bennet is working for Linderman, (that's the mobster, right?) He doesn't seem like the type to go in with a mobster--what ever he's doing, it's because he believes in it.
Oh, and isn't it creepy when the Haitian says, "...and your mom, I erased her memory so many times."?
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Spoiler for January . . . . . . . . This is the description of the next episode, not much there, but it's something:
quote:Some of the cliffhangers from the last episode are resolved. Claude, a new British hero, is introduced. Claude will offer a different view of the recent changes that have happened in the human evolutionary process and meet Peter Petrelli.
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I don't know if I think Peter is the bomb guy yet. In one of his dreams, he thought he was seeing his brother, but then it turned into Sylar. In the second dream, people seemed to be running away from something that scared them but he didn't realize anything was wrong with him until right before it happened.
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I so want them to be able to save NYC... I also so want to see what Hiro does in that one second between what (could be what) happens in Peter's dream and the end of it all as we know it. Is that when he kicks himself 'too' far back??
This might be my favorite new show since when CSI first hit tv - before the everynightness of it all.
Alright, Claude, the new hero, is gonna have the power of invisibility AND he will be played by former Doctor (Doctor Who) Chris Eccleston!
"Claude, an invisible man played by British actor Christopher Eccleston (Doctor Who), appears January 22. “He’s been living with his invisibility for many years and has come to grips with it, so he’ll give us a different view into this hero world,” Tim Kring explains. “He’s big, imposing and charismatic, and will become a mentor to Peter - albeit a tough, reluctant and stern one. He’ll help Peter learn to use and control his powers.”"
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