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Mmm... does anyone remember Seabert or Belle & Sebastian? (If you're looking them up on www.imdb.com, btw, they're not under their English titles - look for bibifoc and meiken jolie)
I don't think the cartoons are ever - quite - as cool as we remember them. I spent last summer transferring all my old VHS tapes to DVD and there were some cringe-worthy episodes! That said, I miss (the original) My Little Ponies, because the characters were always bursting into song. THAT was awesome.
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When I explored the Warner Bros. cartoon oevre after some twenty years (and now over ten years ago---they don't seem to be on any channels I get, and I've only picked up a couple of DVD collections), I found them even better than they were before. Somewhere in the process of what they euphemistically call "growing up," I picked up a lot of info...and got a lot of things that had sailed over my head before. (In a couple of cases, I got something that sailed over the heads of some people compiling reference books on them.)
On the other hand, sampling "The Flinstones" around the same time...they seemed to have lessened. I found the drawing and writing couldn't match either the Warner cartoons, or most of the new TV stuff that was starting to come out.
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Of that particular list? 3 Just as an aside, IB, very few things on your lists ever ring a bell with me. Are you sure we grew up on the same planet? Melanie
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God, Ren & Stimpy. I think I was okay having forgotten that one... and Thundarr the Barbarian... who knew how much junk was floating around in my brain? Other than that, the ones I remember off your list are Scooby Doo, The Jetsons, Johny Quest, The Superfriends, Pinky and the Brain, and Mighty Mouse.
Hmm, and I can think of loads of other programs you didn't list. Maybe I rotted my brain with too much TV when I was a kid...
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A couple of my primary sources for new (and old) cartoons seem to have dried up...Disney doesn't run much anymore (even Toon Disney switched to running those lame and awful kid sitcoms), and Nickelodeon did more-or-less the same.
Of late I've been drawn to three on "Discovery Kids"..."Tutenstein," "Growing Up Creepie," and "The Future is Wild"...though it's been a long time since any of 'em ran a new episode, despite claiming they will practically every day.
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My favorites growing up (that I can remember right now) were Scooby Doo, Vultron, Thundercats, Smurfs, Rainbow Bright, My little Pony, Talespin, Ducktales, and Tom and Jerry.
My favorite cartoons that are on right now are Little Bear and Phineas and Ferb. I like Spongebob on some days.
Edited to add: I forgot X-men and Batman.
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I remember 15 of those, IB. You've inspired me to make my own Saturday morning and week-day 3PM list:
1.Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies (Chuck Jones, especially) 2.Animaniacs and Pinky and the Brain (Spielberg and Warner Brothers - genius and insane) 3.Droopy (kind of a cartoon-slut - has shown up in all major cartoon companies, except - I think - Disney) 4.Hanna-Barbera - The Flintstones (pre- teen Bam-Bam and Pebbles) - The Jetsons (Flintstones in the future) - Scooby-Doo (before Scrappy or Scooby-Dum) - Tom and Jerry (The Road Runner and Cayote, but funnier) - The Yogi Bear Show (said Hey, Hey, Hey before Fat Albert) - Speed Buggy (Scooby-Doo as a car) - Hong Kong Phooey (Scatman Crothers - the black guy from The Shining - as a wannabe superdog with a clever cat) - Super Friends (pre- Wonder Twins) - Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels (Scooby-Doo as a caveman with super powers) 5.Sid and Marty Kroft - - H.R. Pufnstuff (inspired 70's McDonald's commercials - inspired by Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds - kind of) - Sigmund and the Sea Monsters (Caspar as a giant blob of seaweed) - Far Out Space Nuts (Gillagan's Island in space - literally - with Bob Denver) - Dr. Shrinker (kind of like Land of the Giants - another classic) - Wonderbug (Speed Buggy in real life) - Land of the Lost (Jurassic Park befor CGI) 6.Deputy Dawg (picture a smart Rosco P. Coltrane as a dog - pre-Dukes) 7.ThunderCats (the best cartoon in the 80's - forget Transformers) 8.Bobby's World (Howie Mandel created this when he still had hair) 9.SpongeBob SquarePants (I resisted as long as I could - resistence is futile) 10.Phineas and Ferb (the best new cartoon - and the best soundtrack too) Honorable Mention: - The New Adventures of Flash Gordon (animated Star Wars version of Flash Gordon)
(These are partially in order of preference and partially chronological - there's your "randomness", shimiqua.
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Phineas and Ferb is the only cartoon I'd be willing to watch without the kids around. I love it, makes me laugh every time.
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I remember "Thundercats." Not 'cause I watched it...at the time, I worked at a Burger King. They had a tie-in promotion with the show. If kids came in, we were to greet them with the rallying cry of "THUNDERCATS, HO!"
This failed to catch on, on the utter refusal of everybody then working in the place to actually say it...
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He-man, oh ya, I used to like the female version of that. She-ra Princess of Power. I even had her as an action figure with her horse and friend. I think it was my favorite cartoon for a while.
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Actually, IB, Hong Kong Phooey was a Kung-Fu dog, but my point was that he wore a mask and had a secret identity. He even had a secret lair underneath the police station and had a "super-car" called the Phooeymobile. His "good cat, Spot" always nabbed the bad guys, and Phooey got full credit and thought it was all his own doing. HKP was a personal favorite of mine.
Captain Caveman had actually been out a few years before he appeared on an updated and inferior version of The Flintstones.
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I actually liked Superfriends even after the Wonder Twins, but I didn't like the Wonder Twins themselves. They were there for comic relief, and instead annoyed the guano out of me.
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Missing three classics that deserve to be mentioned.
1930's and 40's Popeye
Excessively violent and racist to the point of you won't see it on TV anymore but to listen to the mumbling dialog is the best. Some of the funniest things you could ever hear.
Johnny Quest
A family life that would be highly suspicious in today's world but the intro music and storylines were the funnest to watch in the 70's. The Venture brothers on Adult swim is a pretty good spoof on it (they even showed a 50 year old Raji with Johnny in the background on one episode). For an old cartoon, it was kicka**.
Underdog
Okay, it was a very lame take off on Superman. The superdrug/pep pill is definitely not the message you want youngsters to hear these days but it had the greatest intro song ever.
quote:When criminals in this world appear, And break the laws and place you fear, And frighten all you see and hear, A cry goes out both far and near for Under-dog! Underdog! Under-dog Underdog! Speed of lightening, Roar of thunder, Fight-ing all who rob or blunder, Under-dog! Underdog, Underdog!
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This discussion is getting much to focused for the random musing thread. So... I just ate some good pork today.
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I miss Jackanory Blue Peter Dougal and the magic roundabout The Clangers The Wombles Bill and Ben Andy Pandy Ken Dod and the Diddy men Trumpton Joe Ninety Thunderbirds Bassell Brush Rolf Harris
Later I missed Tomorrow People Blake's Seven Dr Who Fawlty Towers Not the Nine O'Clock news
BTW many of these shows were watched in 'Gasp' Black and White because Mum couldn't afford the colour TV or the colour TV license. And my Grandpa had the biggest Meccano collection I've ever seen.
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A family life that would be highly suspicious in today's world but the intro music and storylines were the funnest to watch in the 70's. The Venture brothers on Adult swim is a pretty good spoof on it (they even showed a 50 year old Raji with Johnny in the background on one episode). For an old cartoon, it was kicka**.
snapper... you did read my list, right? Not only did I have Johnny Quest, I mentioned the "real lips" that they dubbed over the cartoon ones in the original show! LoL
Go-Go Gophers was part of the Underdog show--I figured those who recognized it would know. Kind of like Wally Gator being a part of the (unmentioned) Woody Woodpecker show.
But, you're right, the original Popeye, Looney Tunes, and Flintstones I didn't think needed mentioning, since they're so well known.<shrug>
There are a lot I didn't mention:
G-Force
Inspector Gadget
Hulk Hogan's Rocking Wrestling
Spiderman (Where they just rotated the camera and spun the picture to make him swing.)original 60s cartoon.
The Hulk (Doc Bruce Banner, pelted by gamma rays, turned into the hulk<--theme song)60s cartoon.
Godzilla
Voltron
Dragon's Lair
Dungeons and Dragons
Danger Mouse
Dino Riders
Drak Pack
Dinosaucers
Count Duckula
Challenge of the GoBots
The Ewoks
Fangface and Fangpuss
Flash Gordon
Galtar and the Golden Lance
Inhumanoids
Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors
The Heathcliff and Marmaduke Show
Garfield and Friends
Frogger
Pac Man
The Legend of Zelda
The Littles
M.A.S.K.
The Mighty Orbots
Mr.T
Mysterious Cities of Gold
Q*Bert
Robotech
Sectaurs
Silverhawks
Space Ace
Space Ghost
Spartakus and the Sun Beneath the Sea
Tigersharks
Tranzor-Z
Vytor, the Starfire Champion
Visionaries: Knights of the Magical Light
The World of David the Gnome
I still love the cartoon movies (some of these are NOT for children):
Frank Frazetta and Ralph Bakshi's Fire and Ice
Peter S. Beagle's The Last Unicorn
Pete's Dragon
The Man Called Flintstone
Coonskin (Intended to offend everyone.)
Rock and Rule
Romey-O and Julie-8
Bebe's Kids
The Iron Giant
Heavy Metal
Fantasia
Cool World
Who Framed Roger Rabbit
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I could start a whole new thread on Quest. What was that quartet about anyway. Two guys traveling the world together (never remembered seeing or hearing about Johnny's mom) and they somehow got a third world young boy to travel with them. Funny they were never in the states. You think Dr. Quest was avoiding the law?
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Back on cartoons...the Popeye cartoons are out on DVD through 1943...the last of which contained "Happy Birthdaze," my all-time favorite Popeye cartoon.
Even when someone shows them on TV, it's almost always the color ones...or these absolutely dreadful so-called "colorized" versions...but they're not colorized, they've actually been redrawn in color...and extremely poorly drawn as well...
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I remembered another cartoon series from the early 1990s (I think) that I liked but that has disappeared without a trace. "Taz-Mania," another chronicling of the adventures of a Warner Bros. player.
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Here's a riddle - can anyone tell me the only (as far as I know) Disney (partially) animated movie that has never been released on VHS or DVD?
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It does have zipideedodah (or however you spell it). I think it's actually been released in Europe, but it was prevented from being released in the US because of concerns about racism.
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Well, the later theatrical Popeye cartoons, through sometime in the 1950s, kept the standards pretty high, even if they didn't reach the zany heights of the Fleischer cartoons of the 1930s...then Paramount closed the studio and hired a succession of people to put out some absolutely awful cartoons. The "colorized" remakes, sometime in the 1980s I think, amounted to debasing good cartoons.
"Song of the South" was released on tape and laserdisc (but not DVD) in Japan at some point, maybe Europe, too...but never in the USA. Another variety of problem with "colorization," actually. (I gather some editing was done to later releases of "Fantasia" (and the home version) for this same reason.)
Has "The Reluctant Dragon" ever been released to the home market?
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As I was channel surfing a couple of nights ago, I caught an episode of Rick and Steve: The Happiest Gay Couple in All The World. Never heard of it before, but OMG was it hilarious. I love a good satire, and the writers absolutely nailed it. Love the animated Lego figures too. A bit over the top at times, but I think the beauty of animation is it allows one to indulge in hyperbole.
Random Thought: Don't believe what they tell you... acupuncture does hurt. But in a good way.
I'm having cable television trouble, where I seem to get the channels on my digital tier only at certain times of the day. I've replaced the cable box. I think it might be a problem somewhere between the wall and the box...but today I tried to get some three-foot cable at two different places, neither of which had what I needed.
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That reminds me. Did you ever hear of the FCC commisioner that commented on the quality of Television in the late 50's early 60's? He said Americans that turn on their TV's view a vast wasteland. He received a letter from a viewer wanting to know what time "Vast Wasteland" was on.
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Robert, Teletoon here in Canada. I don't know where it airs in the States. You can probably download episodes from somewhere. In fact, I'm considering cancelling my cable altogether and downloading (legally) shows I want to watch. However, it seems trying to do it legally is a lot more difficult than illegally. Itunes has a relatively limited selection, and at $1.99/ep, it might not end up being any cheaper than paying for cable. Posts: 159 | Registered: Feb 2008
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I Googled it...seems to have been on Logo...Logo is on my digital tier and I get it...when I get it (see above).
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The "vast wasteland" FCC chairman was named Newton Minnow...and the "Minnow," the wrecked ship on "Gilligan's Island," was named after him 'cause the producer / creator Sherwood Schwartz blamed Minnow for ruining the quality of TV of its day.
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Here's something random: I remember when, during the third season of Lost, Heroes came out and everyone was writing Lost off and were annointing Heroes as the new "king" of sci-fi (sorry Battlestar fans, but that was the "word"). Now look at them all.
The third season of Heroes, including the finale, completely blew chunks, and Lost is having one of its best seasons ever (actually two good seasons in a row). Oh, and Battlestar ended by saying "God did it", which I found to be a bit of a cop-out. Not that God couldn't have done it, but it was definitely a "soap-operahish" conclusion.
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I enjoy singing with the radio in my car, but I pretend I don't when people look over.
That's gonna change.
I love to watch people singing along alone in their cars, it makes my day. Why should I deny the world the pleasure of watching someone make a fool of themselves? Even if that fool is me.
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I'll singalong, in the car, in the shower, maybe when it's just me alone in my house and the radio playing. (Actually I pump my iPod through a dinky transmitter thing into my old Grundig Satellit 400.)
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That's why I moved to the middle of nowhere--I don't think I could drive unless I was singing.
Here's my brilliant solution: If I happen to be stuck at a light, and I'm feeling self-conscious, I'll put my mp3 player next to my ear and pretend like I'm talking on the phone.
If I'm not feeling self-conscious, I'll start dancing in my seat too. Either way, I'm sure I'm entertaining someone!
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I've been dubbing some old LPs and 45s onto CDs, then putting the resulting tracks in my iTunes. Partly it's to avoid some of the expense of buying CDs or downloading tracks (though the time spent doing it instead of, say, writing, must be worth something)...but, then, I've got some stuff that's never been out on CD or available for download on iTunes.
(I also took my old copy of "Abbey Road" and made Side Two into one big track---something I never could figure out how to do with "Abbey Road" on CD...)
Can anyone explain to me why, when you ask for "just a little bit" of sauce on something, the people serving you are just as likely to dump gobs and gobs of sauce on as to listen to you?
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