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pfresh85
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Well the way he started looking over his shoulder and stuff, it's like he was expecting something. I was thinking he'd just phase out so that things would pass through him (assuming he has that level of control, which it seems like he does).
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Peter is going to be the prime suspect in the Sylar case... The FBI and the mind reading cop are going to become involved in all of this. Peter's gonna read minds for a brief moment.

That's my predition for the day.

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Why didn't Peter absorb more of Sylar's powers? Obviously while he was with Claire he could heal, but he didn't seem to get anything from Sylar.

I'm beginning to actually like Mr. Bennett. Never thought that would happen.

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Peter's been a bit slow so far to be able to make conscious use of the powers he borrows, so I imagine he did absorb some of Sylar's powers, but wasn't able to use them. Claire's powers act on their own, without her conscious decision to use them, so it makes sense they'd also act that way in Peter.

I was on the verge of suggesting an alternate hypothesis involving Sylar being immune to other supers' powers, but then I remembered that Eden and the unnamed guy who work with Mr. Bennet both used their powers on him in the woods. So, I don't know.

I do know that this show has me completely engrossed. It's one of the few shows I watch as it airs, rather than wait for the tivo to be done with it so that I don't have to watch commercials. (House is the other one, incidentally. [Big Grin] )

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Peter's lucky that he straightened out his foot before Claire's powers faded. That would have been quite uncomfortable.
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If I woke up on the ground after that fall with my legs on backwards, I think it would have taken me a bit more time to figure out I could twist them back. I guess they didn't have much time before the next commercial though.
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quote:

Also, DL can pass through solid objects. Wouldn't it make sense that solid objects (like ... bullets) could also pass through him? I personally kind of doubt it'll end up that way, but its a distinct possibility.

I thought that was implied with the whole "As long as he doesn't see me coming" or whatever that line was. Having been prepared, I would bet the bullet went right through him.
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quote:
Originally posted by EKR:
Peter is going to be the prime suspect in the Sylar case... The FBI and the mind reading cop are going to become involved in all of this. Peter's gonna read minds for a brief moment.

That's my predition for the day.

Ooooh. Good point. Nice cath EKR.

As for DL. I agree with the previous poster regarding the line Jessica says about DL knowing if she's coming or not.

Next week is too far away.

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Masi Oka, who plays Hiro, was on Conan O'Brien's Late Night show. Delightful person, very articulate. Unlike his TV character, he speaks perfect English. Like his TV character, he seems to have a wonderfully enthusiastic cheerfulness. Conan surprised him by coming up with research that revealed Oka had appeared on the cover of Time Magazine (I think it was Time) when he was a little kid, with a number of other Asian students at a school for the gifted. It was an article about Asian American kids with very high I.Q.s.
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So what about this rumor I hear that the guy who played Sulu on Star Trek (George Takei) might make an appearance as Hiro's dad -- in a future episode?
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Wow, each week really does become better. To be honest, I'm glad they were able to do a very excellent episode without having to rely on Hiro's awesomeness. I was a bit worried that the show was creeping towards having Hiro be the only gem in the show.

Peter definately stepped up on last nights episode, even if he is a bit slow on his powers. For the most part, Peter has used his powers subconsciously with the exception of Isaac's with the painting of Claire. I think that if he went into the confrontation knowing Sylar's powers, he probably would have displayed them.

Here's something I want to address. Nathan bought the painting back from Linderman, right? And the painting came with a digital picture of it. Does anyone else find that a bit odd? Did Linderman know he'd try to cover it up and Linderman wanted Peter to die? He is very intriguing character...

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I think THE GIRL took the photo of it before showing it to Peter's brother. After all, she had already taken the liberty of finding out where this high school was, etc.

(or maybe Linderman sent a digital photo via email prior to the transaction, to make sure that was the painting wanted)

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Generally when you buy an expensive painting you get photos of it (for insurance purposes) along with the provenance paperwork.
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I also think that each show (for the most part) is better than the one which preceeded it. Its nice to see, after other favorite shows of mine started strong and then declined.

Being a (moderate) comic book geek, here are some observations about how their powers align with existing comic book characters:

Peter: While the obvious answer is Rogue, his powers actually line up much better with Synch from Generation X. Mimic from the Exiles is closer to Peter's power as well.

Niki/Jessica clearly is inspired by the Hulk, especially the MPD part. (Of course, Hulk was inspired by Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.)

Claire basically has Wolverine's healing power without the claws, skeleton, century of training, or super senses. She heals even better than Wolvie does, perhaps more on Deadpool's level.

Nathan's power is of course all over the comic book world. It reminds me most of Superman's flight, without the rest of the Superman package.

DL has Kitty Pryde's power. Not much else to say about that.

Hiro's power is far too great to typically be used by a comic book hero. Like another poster mentioned, its pretty much the most dominating power anyone can have. It is sometimes given to super-villians, especially the most powerful ones. For instance, Thanos with the Infinity Guantlet could stop time, and did so when he was first attacked by earth's heroes.

Matt and Eden's powers have been featured on dozens of characters, notably Jean Grey and Professor X.

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I can't remember anyone in the X-Men verse who could stop time, but there was a time traveling mutant who had that little stooge for a sidekick.
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quote:
Originally posted by Farmgirl:
So what about this rumor I hear that the guy who played Sulu on Star Trek (George Takei) might make an appearance as Hiro's dad -- in a future episode?

He's actually going to be making an appearance as Sulu in an upcoming episode of Star Trek: The New Voyages.
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quote:
Originally posted by Farmgirl:
I think THE GIRL took the photo of it before showing it to Peter's brother. After all, she had already taken the liberty of finding out where this high school was, etc.

(or maybe Linderman sent a digital photo via email prior to the transaction, to make sure that was the painting wanted)

Simone actually said that the digital copy came in the box with the painting.
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quote:
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Niki/Jessica clearly is inspired by the Hulk, especially the MPD part. (Of course, Hulk was inspired by Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.)

You're obviously not just a comic geek, but a Marvel geek. Niki/Jessica is much closer to Rose/Thorn than she is to the Hulk. There's no physical change, and at least at the beginning, Niki was completely unaware of Jessica.

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Nathan's power is of course all over the comic book world. It reminds me most of Superman's flight, without the rest of the Superman package.

The only hero I know of whose only power is flight would probably be Black Condor.
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You're obviously not just a comic geek, but a Marvel geek.
Guilty as charged. I've started reading Green Lantern recently, but for the ~15 years before that, it was Marvel all the way.
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Given Eden's power of persuasion, why wasn't she able to persuade Mohinder to stay in New York.


I'm still highly suspicious of Mr. Bennet (Claire's Dad). While his concern and love for Claire are clearly genuine, I have serious ethical questions about much of what we have seen him do. He kidnaps people, tests them, erases memories, marks people. He is responsible for at least two deaths. If what he is doing is truly above board, why is he so secretive about it even among the people with superpowers who he is following. If he understands whats going on, why isn't he doing more to help all of these people instead on only a select few. Why did Eden lie to Mohinder, wouldn't it have made more sense for her to collaborate with him rather than simply spying on him. If anyone in this show needs help with their powers its got to be the radioactive man, yet they kidnapped him and then released him to go home and kill his wife and endanger all of New York city. It seems to me that Bennet keeps and helps people who can help him and then just spies on the others. His dishonesty makes me think he and his team are not "good guys".

It really bothered me that Bennet had no concern for Peter, even after Peter saved Claire's life. He was perfectly willing to abandon him to be arrested by the police.

If he does turn out to be a good guy, they have an awful lot of explaining to do.

[ November 21, 2006, 02:54 PM: Message edited by: The Rabbit ]

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Given Eden's power of persuasion, why wasn't she able to persuade Mohinder to stay in New York.
She could have if she'd used her powers. She doesn't like using her powers like that.

When Bennet found out that Mohinder left for India, I believe he said something to the effect of "You let him go?" She responds, "He will be back."

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Right, remember when Mr. Bennet was trying to get her to "persuade" Isaac, she said something along the lines of "You said I'd never have to do that again". Right now he's obviously not a "good guy", but he's not evil either. His agenda isn't one of "rid the world of mutants" or "world domination" or anything like that (for now). So the jury is still out on him, and it's supposed to be that way. They want to keep us guessing. I bet it's likely he'll have some part in the season finale, him either turning good or bad.
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He is the guy willing to do almost anything to save his daughter. I think we will find out more about him next week. Or at least that is what the previews show.

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I think he's the guy willing to do anything to save his daughter, and prevent the nuke or protect the world from freaks with powers or whatever. He definitely has an agenda, and he appears to be more or less amoral in his actions.
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Lisa: You forgot angel/archangel, then theres The Vulture. Though The Vultures wings are mechanical.
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Cool TV Guide video interview with Masi Oka:

http://www.tvguide.com/detail/celebrity.aspx?tvobjectid=256529

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quote:
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Given Eden's power of persuasion, why wasn't she able to persuade Mohinder to stay in New York.

At first, I thought maybe Mohinder's power is immunity from other powers. But the kid in India proves that wrong.

I think Eden doesn't particularly like using her power. Which suits me just fine. If someone has to have the power to override my will, I want them to be very reluctant to use it.

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His dishonesty makes me think he and his team are not "good guys".

Maybe they aren't going to let "good guys" and "bad guys" be a black and white dichotomy on this show. Bad guys can have good traits, and good guys can have bad traits. That's how it is in the real world, after all.
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Maybe the choices aren't good and evil, but good and awesome. Besides, I like a "good guy" that's a bit ruthless... kind of a geek Jack Bauer.

And Eden refrained from telling Mohinder to outright "stay". For which, Daddy Bennett chastised her.

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quote:
Lisa: You forgot angel/archangel, then theres The Vulture. Though The Vultures wings are mechanical.
And Blackblade, you forgot Arthur, the Tick's sidekick. Arthur's wings are mechanical too.
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quote:
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Lisa: You forgot angel/archangel, then theres The Vulture. Though The Vultures wings are mechanical.
And Blackblade, you forgot Arthur, the Tick's sidekick. Arthur's wings are mechanical too.
lol true enough
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I'm going to stick with Black Condor. He's still the only one with just flight as a power, where he doesn't require mechanical aids.
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Much will depend on how Mr. Bennet deals with Sylar now that he has him and what he does with Peter to help him, Peter has no blood from the Cheerleader on him, except maybe some transfer from Sylar, but he will have to explain a lot of blood from himself. Incompetant yokels could seriously screw it up.
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Another good episode. It made me like Hiro that much more. Try as best he can, he couldn't do what I wanted to most. It's sad and makes you really feel for him. I also liked the explanation for who Sylar is. I didn't fully expect the Jessica/sister twist with Nikki, but it sounds okay. I'm a little sad that next week is the last new episode for a little bit, but I mean that's television for you. Still Heroes is my most anticipated show each week. It's awesome stuff.
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I love this show : )!!! This episode didn't do much in the way of present day answers but I guess it did clear some stuff up. I actually like Jessica/Nikki a lot better now Jessica seems more real. The worst part is the corny voice at the end saying "You ain't seen nothin' yet." lol.
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It does look like Sylar gets the powers of those he kills, I wonder what that includes?
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Does he eat the brains or something? It doesn't really show...
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Best line of the episode, "Greatu Scottu!"

I really liked the timing of this episode showing all these character's pasts and yet its a new episode because for Hiro this is a continuation of his storyline not a recap.

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Lisa called the Nikki/Jessica thing pretty damned close.
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quote:
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Best line of the episode, "Greatu Scottu!"

Excellent shout-out to Back to the Future, too.
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I don't believe Sylar eats the brains.... From what I gather, his powers seem to allow him to view the structure of one's DNA, or possibly soul, and reconfigure his own to match.... Thus, allowing him "assimilate" a new power.

To make it simple, he's able to mutate his DNA on command.

~Earl

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If he views his victims as broken then what he does is deliberately break himself to match. That might account for his growing psychosis.
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I think it's like with him fixing the watch. He can see how it works. So if he can see the brains of the people he kills, he can see how they work, too.

Not real sure how he makes his brain match, but maybe that's the sort of explaination we don't want.

I loved the scene with Claire and her dad after she made cheerleader. I'm even more worried now that Mr. Bennett had something to do with Chandra's death. It seems like something he'd do if Eden couldn't get Claire off the list.

But why does he want her powers to be a secret so badly? Sylar wasn't out there in the world yet. Mr. Bennett was the only one going after them.

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Sheesh! This show is so good! It's setting things up so that it can easily jump to and from story lines without hardly any hassle at all. It's simple, yet glorious. [Smile]
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Who is your favorite character in Heroes? Claire, the cheerleader, is really cute, but I have to admit that Hiro with his exuberant cheerfulness is my favorite, not to mention his really profound power of being able to teleport to different times and places. I wonder when he gets his sword, and why.

Interesting that Nicole gained her multiple personality from what apparently was abuse by her father. Psychologists say that is what usually produces multiple personalities--some kind of serious abuse while young. I just wonder now, who is buried in Jessica's grave?

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I'm a fan of Peter Patrelli myself. Evidently I look somewhat like him. [Dont Know]

I'm also a fan of "the Haitian". I hope he becomes an actual character and not just a plot device.

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quote:
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Who is your favorite character in Heroes? Claire, the cheerleader, is really cute, but I have to admit that Hiro with his exuberant cheerfulness is my favorite, not to mention his really profound power of being able to teleport to different times and places. I wonder when he gets his sword, and why.

Interesting that Nicole gained her multiple personality from what apparently was abuse by her father. Psychologists say that is what usually produces multiple personalities--some kind of serious abuse while young. I just wonder now, who is buried in Jessica's grave?

Um... Jessica, I suspect. When Nikki is Jessica, it may be MPD, or it may be that Jessica's spirit is really in her. That doesn't mean it's Jessica's body.
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Hiro's been my favorite from the start, and as we see more of him and what he's doing, he grows even further in the lead.
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At the beginning, I didn't like Claire much at all, but I suspect I wasn't supposed to. She's been growing on me each episode, and again, I think that was intended.

Hiro is a fun character to watch, as everyone agrees.

I am bored of Niki/Jessica, and I think that is because Ali Larter isn't a very good actress. I just don't care about her, and never have.

I like Peter okay, though its actually Nathan who interests me more, perhaps because he has the cooler power. Nathan is also morally ambiguous, and those characters are often more fun to watch. It will be interesting to see how his character develops.

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Does anyone else wonder what the dead cheerleader's power was? Cause from last night's episode, Sylar can tell people with power- he sees how they are broken. So, he should have sensed that the girl he was killing had no special powers (unless she did have them). And if so, is she the cheerleader they needed to save?
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Why do you think he can sense it? He got the list from Chandra; that's how he's finding them.
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